2 hands vs PS PRO

Hand 1:
-A huge part of your range probably includes a nut or 2nd nut flush here with your various KKxx & AAxx combos.
-There is too much money in the pot PF to not just bet pot and get it in
-This is a situation where he either flopped a flush after calling 1/3 of his stack foolishly and gets your money or he missed and you win the pot as long as you find your balls and make the bets. Honestly the worst thing you can do here is play passively and assume that he has it.
-Keep in mind some players are tight enough that even in 3-bet/4-bet pots with a low flush they will give it up because they convince themselves you have the nut flush when you bet big

Hand 2:
-If he 3-bets a lot your 4-bet is fine
-You flop the nuts. You bet a size that looks like you're trying to get a cheap steal on an easy-win board and induces a pair of 3's to shove. Looks good to me.
-Honestly the only other line on the flop is C/R AI assuming he'll feel like this board almost never hits your range.

hand 1:

some players just aren't going to give up vs this flop bet. a lot of players really. I might go ahead and shove the turn. Actually I am pretty sure I would. Why? because the pot was 540 on the flop and fuck him is why.


hand 2:

it looks fine that guy is loose as hell

I actually wasnt at all scared in hand 1, I checked the turn to induce a jam expecting him to shove whatever he had there, and since it was pretty much a lock board I figured there was no need to bet big since im either WA/WB... well actually it would be somewhat ahead/drawing dead but you get my point.

I appreciate the input about my own lines but I was asking more to see about his lines and if they are good or bad and if I should see the merit to those were I in his shoes.

I think hand 1 he is a dipshit for not shoving the river though I like his turn check

and hand 2 I guess is ok he's kinda been drug into it but it's a high variance game I think he's playing

hand 2 I am not good enough at math to be able to tell but assuming u have KK/AA/2 pair/pair + draw or better I mean it seems like he's always behind on the flop here so I guess hand 2 I think he should fold

I explained more above but overall both his lines are trash 100bbs deep

hand 2 is pretty standard. he's always gonna draw to 2 pair in that spot.

I can find some reason to his postflop play but flatting 4bets with such dominated trash hands seems very spewy bad... who knows.

LOL jp kelly is horrendous

On April 08 2010 13:09 EvilSky wrote: I can find some reason to his postflop play but flatting 4bets with such dominated trash hands seems very spewy bad... who knows.

it's very easy to beat AA or KK when u have 4 different cards to use

On April 08 2010 13:51 Daut wrote: LOL jp kelly is horrendous

I was gonna say.

PLO variance lol. These 2 hands look so ridiculously bad (by him). He probably just ran really good and at PLO you can win shitloads if you just run good.

On April 08 2010 13:09 EvilSky wrote: I can find some reason to his postflop play but flatting 4bets with such dominated trash hands seems very spewy bad... who knows.

Postflop he obviously can't fold on a rainbow flop with a pair and 2 bd flush draws given the odds against your likely AAXX. Preflop 3bet is spewy and the call of the 4bet is even more spew.

I really like his flop call in hand 1...
And checking back turn and river after that...

wow wtf is he doing in both of these hands

I really think he played hand 1 fine other than not betting river
whats ur guys complaint

On April 09 2010 12:53 asdf2000 wrote: I really think he played hand 1 fine other than not betting river whats ur guys complaint

pf?

What did he do wrong pf?

2nd hand i think is more standard than first, both are defensible altho i think his flop call hand 1 is fairly lol, but yea 2nd hand is 10000000% standard. but just commenting that in general hes awful

dont read too much into 60-70k hand samples.. especially in omaha

I also think him not shoving river in hand #1 is retarded / really weak. With only 400 left on the turn, you are bascially never checking with anything (since theres 1150 in the pot) , not twice, since it dosnt make sence to with the pot so inflated. Anything 2 pair or better we are shoving the turn 100% of the time, your hand is defined as almost exclusivley AA-KK which you don't feel you can value bet on this board texture but your never folding this river either

hand #2 is a little more standard

i cant believe kelly's lines lol