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phexac   United States. Mar 17 2010 22:08. Posts 2563 | | | |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Mar 17 2010 22:13. Posts 10422 | | |
He's never gonna fold Ax. You can however bet for value here because the A is also a good bluff card and probably get looked up often enough by worse. Gotta bet big though, like 145 at least. That is, if you have a good 3 barrel frequency. If you don't check/fold is probably best unless he bets for value light as well and is capable of valuebetting like KT or somethign. |
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edzwoo   United States. Mar 17 2010 22:19. Posts 5911 | | |
I think betting here could be okay for value, but not as a bluff. It would help to know if he raises Axs at some point during the hand though.
I think the other mid-high stakes players should know this player to know what the right call is. |
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Exhilarate   United States. Mar 17 2010 22:33. Posts 5453 | | |
i think this really depends on the player's river tendencies, i don't know fasteddie too well
but some players will just turn their hand into a bluff(QQ/JJ) and shove over your third barrel on the A river
here's a similar hand i played
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TalentedTom   Canada. Mar 17 2010 22:44. Posts 20070 | | |
I fail to see how betting here is a bluff, this is a clear value bet.. |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Mar 17 2010 22:44. Posts 20070 | | |
you have the 2nd nuts, nuts being ATs, which there are only 2 combos of |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Mar 17 2010 22:46. Posts 20070 | | |
this is a super standard range merge, esp since we are betting 100% of our bluffs on this river and villian knows this, eddie isn't brave enough to turn JTs type hand into a bluff here |
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YoMeR   United States. Mar 17 2010 22:54. Posts 12438 | | |
i think you'll be too easy to play against if you don't bet here for value. |
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phexac   United States. Mar 17 2010 23:48. Posts 2563 | | |
Hmm ok. Well, I bet here 100%. But looks like my evaluation of the action is off, as you guys are saying this is Vbet and not turning my hand into bluff. |
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locoo   Peru. Mar 18 2010 00:59. Posts 4566 | | |
you cant say you are turning your hand into a bluff when you are gonna get called by soo many worse hand than yours, thats a valuebet |
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mikeymoo   Canada. Mar 18 2010 02:40. Posts 988 | | |
I think I'm growing as a poker player because my thoughts start to agree with the replies here ^^ |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Mar 24 2010 21:37. Posts 7292 | | | |
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Minsk   United States. Mar 27 2010 20:18. Posts 1558 | | |
Best hand ive seen online in ages...thing is you need to v-bet KK here or c/f.
I think optimally you should be betting for value with QT+ and as bluffs 100%....Villain should be optimally pushing everything except Ax & QT+ |
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