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whamm! Albania. Mar 09 2010 22:30. Posts 11625 | | | |
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You need to give us some info on the fish villain. Some likes to jam draws, some like to jam random one pair hands, some do it with only huge hands
The Kings hand looks fine with no cbet. Probably fold river
The A7 is kinda meh since its the cold caller that led. I'm assuming wakegod folded? Either way, I dont see you being ahead very often. Its probably fine to call/hope for a cheap showdown since he bet like 1/3rd psb
The K6dd, probably dont need to bet that much on flop. As far as calling or folding, seems player specific. If its an unknown, probably not a good 3b pre? So if you're 3 betting, you should have some idea how to proceed postflop |
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whamm! Albania. Mar 09 2010 22:58. Posts 11625 | | |
yeah wakegod folded to fish turn bet, seems so small and i see a lot of fish just leading with non ace pairs here, but could have me dominated as well. can i just fold to that bet?i dunno if bluffcatching is ever good there
that k6d hand 3bet was fine for me against my read on that guy, so as played, are both my pot and flop equity enough to get it in and not worry abt this anymore?
LOL i deleted the flush hand coz i thought i HAD teh ace there , just realized it now haha
also that kk hand? doesnt he have qs or some retarded set ? lol just hoping |
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joLin United States. Mar 09 2010 23:30. Posts 3818 | | |
whats your read in the K6s hand? all you say is hes fishy. if hes fishy and likes to call a lot of 3bets this looks like a bad 3bet. |
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the K6dd hand, are you serious? you really should not be 3-betting this hand if you are serious |
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palak United States. Mar 10 2010 01:50. Posts 4601 | | |
u have 12+ outs w/ K6..not sure how it's a question of what to do |
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whamm! Albania. Mar 10 2010 02:03. Posts 11625 | | |
| | On March 09 2010 22:40 TalentedTom wrote:
the K6dd hand, are you serious? you really should not be 3-betting this hand if you are serious |
he was not a total fish but a random who is capable of folding to 3bets, a weakish type of player oop. now that he does call, i have a seemingly decent draw, and draws can be a good part of his range as well here, what would be the proper action here? if its wrong post then please tell why. ty. |
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palak United States. Mar 10 2010 02:45. Posts 4601 | | |
| | On March 10 2010 01:03 whamm! wrote:
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On March 09 2010 22:40 TalentedTom wrote:
the K6dd hand, are you serious? you really should not be 3-betting this hand if you are serious |
he was not a total fish but a random who is capable of folding to 3bets, a weakish type of player oop. now that he does call, i have a seemingly decent draw, and draws can be a good part of his range as well here, what would be the proper action here? if its wrong post then please tell why. ty.
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proper action, shove |
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phexac United States. Mar 10 2010 06:00. Posts 2563 | | |
The general rule against fish is do shit for value. If they raise and call too much, you can do this with a lot of high cards like KQ, KJ, QJ, AJ, etc. K6s is a hand you 3B when you expect to have a lot of FE. Obviously, once you hit your perfect flop, you bet-get it in. You bet because you have fold equity. And you call because you have the odds.
Basically, whenever you 3bet someone, you should know why you are doing it. Either they fold a lot, so you just 3B a more polarized range, preferably with blockers to their strong PF hands, or they raise and call too much, so you 3bet mostly for value and widen you value range. |
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morph1 Sierra Leone. Mar 10 2010 09:01. Posts 2352 | | | |
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I think the K6s hand is a clear 3bet vs anyone who's not playing back a lot so I'm obviously happy with that one. Getting it in is the right thing to do but I don't like your bet size at all.
A7-hand just call and see what happens on river, probably fold to a big bet. |
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PoorUser  United States. Mar 10 2010 12:11. Posts 7472 | | |
| | On March 09 2010 22:40 TalentedTom wrote:
the K6dd hand, are you serious? you really should not be 3-betting this hand if you are serious |
yeah wtf is this really for real? |
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asdf2000 United States. Mar 10 2010 16:08. Posts 7710 | | |
i agree the k6s hand looks terrible it looks like u are trying to give away money |
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phexac United States. Mar 10 2010 16:15. Posts 2563 | | |
| | On March 10 2010 08:21 DustySwedeDude wrote:
I think the K6s hand is a clear 3bet vs anyone who's not playing back a lot so I'm obviously happy with that one. Getting it in is the right thing to do but I don't like your bet size at all.
A7-hand just call and see what happens on river, probably fold to a big bet. |
I agree that K6s is clear 3B versus people who do not play back. However, fish tend to call too much PF and post-flop. So by 3betting light, you are actually creating situations where they are playing somewhat correctly against you. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Mar 10 2010 17:34. Posts 15163 | | |
it depends on the kind of the fish.... And it OP gave a lot of incomplete information... Thats the fun about fish, none of them play the same.
E.G. you can 3bet any two against high VPIP fit or fold fish who fold to small cbets... |
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whamm! Albania. Mar 11 2010 05:37. Posts 11625 | | |
| | On March 10 2010 08:21 DustySwedeDude wrote:
Getting it in is the right thing to do but I don't like your bet size at all.
A7-hand just call and see what happens on river, probably fold to a big bet. |
these are the answers i was looking for. not preflop.
what size is good to bet on flop here? bigger? smaller? |
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