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Nacta   Denmark. Feb 01 2010 19:28. Posts 60 | | | |
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Jonoman92   United States. Feb 01 2010 19:52. Posts 266 | | |
yea you should get more on each street. As for the river.... that sucks lol. I really can't see him having anything but an Ah. |
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Nacta   Denmark. Feb 01 2010 20:01. Posts 60 | | |
How much should I have bet?... and yes the river sucked, it tilted the shit out of me . |
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Nacta   Denmark. Feb 01 2010 20:02. Posts 60 | | |
I wanna know, because I'm really working on my bet sizes lately. |
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joLin   United States. Feb 01 2010 20:16. Posts 3144 | | |
just pot the flop and turn.
river bet is a bit thin but might be ok im not sure. i'd prob bet smaller though and when he shoves its a very very easy fold. |
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joLin   United States. Feb 01 2010 20:24. Posts 3144 | | |
in general vs these types of opponents just bet humungous whenever you have it. |
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vlseph   United States. Feb 01 2010 20:24. Posts 2567 | | |
also 4x pre so you can get bigger flop turn river pot sizes too
think river is bet/fold. |
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waga   France. Feb 01 2010 20:43. Posts 411 | | |
sizing is fine , wtf ?
except river bet , versus this kind of player c/f river seems superior.
If you wanna vbet , 1/2 pot / fold is fine. |
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Sanai   United States. Feb 01 2010 22:54. Posts 415 | | |
What Ah could he have here? |
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vlseph   United States. Feb 01 2010 23:05. Posts 2567 | | |
| | On February 01 2010 20:43 waga wrote:
sizing is fine , wtf ?
except river bet , versus this kind of player c/f river seems superior.
If you wanna vbet , 1/2 pot / fold is fine. |
you're losing a lot of value if you think sizing is fine vs someone playing almost 60/10. |
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joLin   United States. Feb 02 2010 00:08. Posts 3144 | | |
| | On February 01 2010 22:54 Sanai wrote:
What Ah could he have here? |
any of them, hes 60/10. dont level yourself into trying to assign him a range here. |
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waga   France. Feb 02 2010 00:31. Posts 411 | | |
Our sample is only 56 hands.
Our only info postflop is "vilain is passive"
If vilain is a station I bet more , if not , sizing is fine.
Actually he's a station (He don't fold Ah flop ) but it's a info we don't have before this hand.
There is a lot of fish , every fish are not station  |
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joLin   United States. Feb 02 2010 00:36. Posts 3144 | | |
if he has a hand that hes calling $1 on the flop with, hes calling $1.25. |
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AznFisherman   United States. Feb 02 2010 02:41. Posts 821 | | |
his bet-sizing is fine
river just sucks, what can you do but fold |
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joLin   United States. Feb 02 2010 04:05. Posts 3144 | | |
if you think his bet sizing is fine you need to reevaluate the way you value bet these 60/10 fish. youre losing a ton of value in this spot. |
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luddite   United States. Feb 02 2010 04:10. Posts 393 | | |
| | On February 02 2010 00:36 joLin wrote:
if he has a hand that hes calling $1 on the flop with, hes calling $1.25. |
I really dislike this kind of thinking. By that logic you could just as well say "he he has a hand that he's calling $1.25 with, he's calling$1.50". Of course there's a very small chance that a 1bb increase will make him fold, but it could. Increasing your bet size always increases the chance that he'll fold. The trick in value betting is to find that sweet spot that maximizes chance to call* amount.
that being said, 1.50 or maybe even 2.00 would probably be better. |
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4kinggenius   United Kingdom. Feb 02 2010 06:13. Posts 292 | | |
just value bet the shit out of him and when he plays back at you on a board like this you know your behind. +ev long tem |
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joLin   United States. Feb 02 2010 07:08. Posts 3144 | | |
obviously its only true up to a certain bet sizing, after which our fold equity will be too high with every bb increase in bet sizing. |
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4Kingell   United Kingdom. Feb 02 2010 07:43. Posts 1343 | | |
joLin is absolutely right imo. Betting 2/3 pot with the virtual nuts Vs fish is burning money. Bet more = more value = simples. The times that the extra big blind forces a fold is way more compensated by the times they call. I do think if they call $1 they will call $1.25 and will almost always call pot - obviously there is a balance there but 2/3 pot is way below the tipping point. |
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SpasticInk   Sweden. Feb 02 2010 10:12. Posts 4138 | | |
yeah bet a bit more.
i like river bet
now fold |
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