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Fayth    Canada. Nov 16 2009 21:08. Posts 10085

Submitted by : Fayth

***** Hand History for Game 8618389061 *****
$2,000 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, November 16, 21:02:24 EST 2009
Table 50BB Min #1467293 No DP Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: Lol_brand $4,110.50 USD
Seat 3: Matthieuvanm $2,452.75 USD
Seat 1: Hero $9,051.88 USD
Seat 6: VEMvetINTEdu $4,196 USD
Seat 2: boygotgame $2,804.75 USD
Seat 4: scout513 $2,000 USD
Hero posts small blind [$10 USD].
boygotgame posts big blind [$20 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [QhJh ]
Matthieuvanm folds
scout513 raises [$60 USD]
Lol_brand calls [$60 USD]
Hero calls [$50 USD]
boygotgame folds

Flop (Pot : $200.00)

   Ts6c9h
Hero checks
scout513 bets [$148.50 USD]
Lol_brand calls [$148.50 USD]
Hero calls [$148.50 USD]

Turn (Pot : $645.50)

   Ts6c9h8d
Hero checks
scout513 checks
Lol_brand checks

River (Pot : $645.50)

   Ts6c9h8d5d
Hero checks
scout513 bets [$482.62 USD]
Lol_brand calls [$482.62 USD]
Hero raises

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Ket    United Kingdom. Nov 16 2009 21:18. Posts 8665

just raise at least enough to put scout allin obv, prob doesnt make much diff how much more u make it than that minimum amount cause the other guy's prob never calling anyway if hes a reg. 2100 sounds fine


Fayth    Canada. Nov 16 2009 21:25. Posts 10085

it isnt the scout on stars, or even the losing scout on party, it's some russian impersonating the infamous losing player scout lol, this one's a winning player

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Loco   Canada. Nov 16 2009 22:06. Posts 21022

yeah just raise it around pot

kind of hard to get paid off here though. just gotta hope scout513 somehow had a 7 in his hand and decided to check turn. it's pretty unlikely lol_brand has one.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Roman    United States. Nov 16 2009 22:19. Posts 590

i raise small only


[vital]Myth    United States. Nov 17 2009 00:48. Posts 12159

in order for anybody NOT to put you on QJ you either have to
have history where you're bluffing in spots that you can only rep the nuts a lot,
give them really good odds so they just call out of curiosity, or
be playing against some ridic fish who doesn't even think about what you have

so i'd vote for a really small raise since i think in this particular hand you only have option 2 working for you

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

PoorUser    United States. Nov 17 2009 03:55. Posts 7472

yeah im down with the 1175

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PoorUser    United States. Nov 17 2009 04:02. Posts 7472

and also check/shoving a seven since lol_brand is folding a ton and never has us beat, scout almost never has us beat and will sometimes fold a seven too since the jam will look super strong since it looks like its to get value of the deep person behind him

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terrybunny19240   United States. Nov 17 2009 15:41. Posts 13829

I concur with steve, we are rarely beat in this spot


Jamie217   Canada. Nov 18 2009 03:05. Posts 4351


  On November 16 2009 20:25 Fayth wrote:
it isnt the scout on stars, or even the losing scout on party, it's some russian impersonating the infamous losing player scout lol, this one's a winning player



you should probably mention that in your post.. and ye like most ppl I like raising small as well

c/jamming a 7 is a pretty sweet play also pu


JonnyCosMo   United States. Nov 18 2009 05:05. Posts 7292


  On November 17 2009 14:41 Night2o1 wrote:
I concur with steve, we are rarely beat in this spot



o i see why he is rarely beat in this spot!

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser 

Loco   Canada. Nov 18 2009 17:14. Posts 21022


  On November 17 2009 14:41 Night2o1 wrote:
I concur with steve, we are rarely beat in this spot



agreed

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

thewh00sel    United States. Nov 19 2009 03:00. Posts 2735

well no way theyre both calling, so raise enough to get scout to call all in.

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SlowHabit   United States. Nov 19 2009 14:07. Posts 70

Considering it's two opponents and in a spot where Villain isn't likely to bluff again, I like donk turn here to stack 7x and to get value out of sets/two pairs that are checking behind on turn.

This will cause our turn donking range to become unbalanced but I don't think it gets exploited often in a 3-way pot since people will shut down a lot due to them having a showdownable hand majority of the time and a good chance the other person has 7x in his checking range. Wow, long sentence.


 



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