sigh spot 10/20

Submitted by : Fayth

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$2,000 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 13, 02:49:57 EDT 2009
Table 50BB Min #1467328 No DP Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: DonkOnRoofy $3,321 USD
Seat 4: Fading_Star_ $2,523.50 USD
Seat 5: Hero $2,257 USD
Seat 1: UrBabyIsUgly $2,492 USD
Seat 6: bajawa $2,770.50 USD
Seat 3: tehanu $3,336 USD
UrBabyIsUgly posts small blind [$10 USD].
DonkOnRoofy posts big blind [$20 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [ ]
Fading_Star_ folds
Hero raises [$60 USD]
bajawa calls [$60 USD]
UrBabyIsUgly calls [$50 USD]
DonkOnRoofy calls [$40 USD]

Flop (Pot : $240.00)

   
UrBabyIsUgly checks
DonkOnRoofy checks
Hero bets [$190 USD]
bajawa folds
UrBabyIsUgly folds
DonkOnRoofy raises [$606 USD]

Very easy fold vs reasonable opponents, unless you expect him to be folding to the shove often

You are crushed or up against a huge draw 99% of the time so fold, not much more complicated than that imo.

since its 4way n all -.-

On October 13 2009 02:45 TimDawg wrote: i guess i would probably call and get it in on most turns vs a lot of opponents

well i posted this when you posted the hand but since clay and erik both say fold, i'm probably wrong

bajawa folds
UrBabyIsUgly folds

just seems like a good 5/10+ reg would realize how strong it would look to raise you here a little wider than normally in a 4 way pot but i could be very wrong

On October 13 2009 02:10 wolfheart wrote: damn calculator doesnt work.. but first thing what comes to my mind what would do this play is A9 diamonds. TQ, J9 also but less unlikly. I guess u got in and lost but want comfimation is it ok.. I think u cant get away fromt this since its so drawheavy board JK diamonds ..he can do it with just diamon draw also. And especially 4 way sure somone hits flushdraw usually. I get it in. But same time 4 way somone can hit top2 easy also. Its not bad to fold here also. U fliping at best

actually just listen to wolfheart

On October 13 2009 02:52 TimDawg wrote: bajawa folds UrBabyIsUgly folds just seems like a good 5/10+ reg would realize how strong it would look to raise you here a little wider than normally in a 4 way pot but i could be very wrong

I think that a good reg realizes that your hero's range for betting this flop is composed mostly of strong hands and draws. AQ is on the lower end of our value/protection range. I think its ok to fold here because we are still stacking off with a large part of our flop betting range and so him bluffing here will not be profitable.

Agree with general concensus that this is a fold against a reasonable opponent. And TimDawg, it's not like Hero is going to be cbetting anything he raised pre with into 3 people on this board texture, I don't think it's a good spot for villain to bluff at all.

standard fold

agree with wolfheart, def A9dd diamonds so either fold or call

call/stack off on any non diamond/9/J/K/A turn

I doubt he's ever making a play here on such a wet flop. If he thinks you're a reasonable player, he's going to know you have something on this board and I doubt he's planning on getting you to fold. At best you're flipping here, I'd fold.

Bleh this is gay, kinda leaning towards folding on that board

Maybe Ive been playing too much PLO thou

On October 13 2009 13:23 thewh00sel wrote: call/stack off on any non diamond/9/J/K/A turn

I dont think this is very good vs most regs

pretty easy fold

On October 13 2009 04:15 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: Agree with general concensus that this is a fold against a reasonable opponent. And TimDawg, it's not like Hero is going to be cbetting anything he raised pre with into 3 people on this board texture, I don't think it's a good spot for villain to bluff at all.

i understand that midian

im just trying to figure out why fayth made this thread in the first place if it's such an easy fold

On October 16 2009 14:21 Jamie217 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2009 13:23 thewh00sel wrote: call/stack off on any non diamond/9/J/K/A turn I dont think this is very good vs most regs pretty easy fold

I think he may have been kidding there lol and yeah this looks like a fold without any history.

yeah I'd fold
you cbet into 500 people and he rr
You'r beat majority of the times

Much more interesting if it's 4k+ deep. This deep his range is stronger and there's not much play left once he makes it 600 and ur behind his range...unless u detect some tilt or unordinary high freq of c/r from him in this spot it's a pretty easy fold. Sometimes I check the flop as well here fwiw.