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Mardagg   Germany. Jun 28 2009 09:24. Posts 843

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/...ing-game-vpps-awarding-change-520114/

Feedback so far has been very bad.
looks like this will be much worse for micro FR-200NL FR,expecially for many SNE grinders.
I am not certain if 6max players would really benefit from this,actually a bit lazy atm to check the numbers myself.

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edzwoo   United States. Jun 28 2009 09:52. Posts 5911

I don't think I saw any deep, analysis in the thread, just some minor calculations.

If FR doesn't get any fishier when/if this happens, I might have to move to 6max.


ToTehEastSide   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:09. Posts 1337

lol listen to those nits howl
if they think this is bad just wait until the vote is yay for taxation
you are going to see a real change then

fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity 

ToTehEastSide   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:13. Posts 1337

and who are they kidding? they aren't quitting
ok sure they might go to FTP lol
but I give them like 3 weeks of that

fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity 

Maynard!   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:20. Posts 4453

Whats the summary of the change? Will it have any change on me since i play 2/4 SH?

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

ToTehEastSide   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:23. Posts 1337

4 handed each player is awarded 1.25 VPPs

fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity 

Maynard!   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:26. Posts 4453


  On June 28 2009 09:23 ToTehEastSide wrote:
4 handed each player is awarded 1.25 VPPs



Is that less or more than before? Sounds like its more.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

ToTehEastSide   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:27. Posts 1337

for 2/4 4handed it's more VPPs than before

I think even full 6max gets a little less

fighting for peace is like fucking for virginityLast edit: 28/06/2009 10:33

edzwoo   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:33. Posts 5911

New system:

Each table get vpps equal to 5x the the rake. e.g. rake is $3 in a pot, table gets 15vpps. 3handed each player would get 5vpps, 5handed 3vpps etc.


Maynard!   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:36. Posts 4453


  On June 28 2009 09:33 edzwoo wrote:
New system:

Each table get vpps equal to 5x the the rake. e.g. rake is $3 in a pot, table gets 15vpps. 3handed each player would get 5vpps, 5handed 3vpps etc.



What was old system?:D

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Mardagg   Germany. Jun 28 2009 10:37. Posts 843

Old system:

1. Earn FPP credits for cash game play
First Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:

•$0.40 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 and lower
•$0.40 for NL/PL poker games with blinds $1/$2 and lower
•$0.40 for ‘1-on-1’ poker games (this applies only to ‘1-on-1’ tables, not to regular tables which have only two players seated)
•$1.00 for all other games
Second FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches:

•$2.00 for all 6-max tables (this doesn't apply for games being played 6- handed at 10/9/8 player tables - just at 6-max tables)
•$3.00 for all other tables
Third FPP is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches $5.00.


Mardagg   Germany. Jun 28 2009 10:40. Posts 843

basically you got 1 vpp for every 8$ pot you were dealt hands,and 2 vpp for every 60$ pot.
Starting at 2/4 you needed 20$ pot for 1vpp.


newbie.cjb   United States. Jun 28 2009 10:50. Posts 3096

good bye jokerstars

my lose is a win. my wins are nothing. 

Chewits   United Kingdom. Jun 28 2009 11:03. Posts 2539

tbh this sounds good for 6max players. And will probably bring more nits to 6max, making it lol easy.

I am a degen. Do not believe in any of my advice. 

phexac   United States. Jun 28 2009 11:09. Posts 2563

Here are some thoughts as far as 6-max at NL200-NL600 is concerned.

Right now, if pot is between 8 and 40 dollars, you get 1 FPP. At $40 pot and above, you get 2 FPPs.

New system, you need a $24 pot before you make your first FPP. Then you need a $48 pot before you make your full second. The difference is that now, you can actually earn between 1 and 2 FPPs when the pot is between $24 and $48. And you can earn more than 2 FPPs as pot goes over $48, up to 2.5 FPPs when rake hits $3 at $60 pot. It's hard to judge whether this will make rake more or less overall at NL200. At NL400-NL600, it will likely get to be more. And it's definitely going to be quite a bit more in games with 5 or less players. I guess I don't mind that change.

Full ring nits though.....LOL

Nitting it up since 2006 

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 28 2009 11:37. Posts 6374

it's hard to say ... imo games will get better when all fckin rakebackpros leave

ban baal 

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jun 28 2009 12:41. Posts 8918

So how does this affect the "rakeback" based on different limits and vip levels ?


whamm!   Albania. Jun 28 2009 12:46. Posts 11625

damn now i gotta switch to 6max again. better tell dzoo coaching plan has changed. im not really worried about it tho, FR fpp grinding has kinda fucked me up in a way haha fuck you stars but i really dont care


gororokgororok   Netherlands. Jun 28 2009 13:13. Posts 3941


  On June 28 2009 10:09 phexac wrote:
Full ring nits though.....LOL



what about 6max nits ?


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 28 2009 13:16. Posts 6374


  On June 28 2009 12:13 gororokgororok wrote:
Show nested quote +



what about 6max nits ?



more 6max nits obv

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