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underfull vs trips on the flop (omaha)

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blackjacki2   United States. May 09 2009 22:29. Posts 2582

Any advice on how to play this flop from both sides of the situation? For example..

Player 1: 2233
Player 2: 7QKA

Flop: 277

When it's blatantly obvious what both players have..

I play it the same way I see most people playing it. With the boat I usually just bet the pot each street if the pot is big enough to get most of my stack in by the river. Just hoping villain doesn't fill up. With the trips I usually call each street hoping to fill up, occasionally folding the turn if villain's stack isn't big enough to give me any implied odds.

It would seem like the trips are in a stronger position since the other player doesn't know what his 3 live cards are and won't know if/when they fill up. But it seems like the trips always lose a lot of money fishing here or maybe that's just variance messing with my eyes.

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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. May 09 2009 23:31. Posts 8623

both hands should probably try to get it in and expect to have really good equity vs the other players range unless both are sick nits in which case the 22 should fold to the obvious quads/72o (the latter only if it's NL and a bounty is involved).


DONKEYLUVIN   United States. May 09 2009 23:32. Posts 292

I usually try to get as much money in on the flop as possible with the underfull because I think you're something like a 58/42 favorite against the trips and 3 overs.....So If I'm first to act I usually go for a check raise as if he bets for you, you can get something like 1/4 or 1/3 of the money in as a slight favorite and the rest of the hand is easy just shove the turn.


If he doesn't bet for you, well he most likely doesnt have trips anyway so just bet turn and go from there.


Kusimuumi   Finland. May 10 2009 00:27. Posts 186

Always bet with the underfull. Checkraising loses value against trips (more often than not passive people tend to potcontrol trips which don't boat up, and they don't always bet the flop when checked to with trips. The more aggressive ones will checkraise your bet which is always +ev.)

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n0rthf4ce    United States. May 12 2009 03:58. Posts 8119

wtf. both hands are the nuts, get as much in on the flop as possible.
same question as what to do w/ KK/AA pf in nl

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killaherni   Mexico. May 12 2009 17:30. Posts 278

Ide try to get everything in on flop...

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