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vasoline73 United States. Apr 11 2009 06:59. Posts 808 | | |
So basically I just played a small session with the intention of asking for advice on LP. I tried to play hands a little different than I usually do and see the results. Alot of my flop checks were actually influenced by THIS thread. Do my flop checks and the advice given in this thread match up? Am I playing it right?
Normally I bet out in almost every flop.
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Submitted by : vasoline73 Full Tilt Poker Game #11622811659: Table Ozark (6 max) - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:35:55 ET - 2009/04/11
Seat 1: billyvoltairee ($2.92)
Seat 2: ALLinwithdaBEST ($0), is sitting out
Seat 3: RMBZ ($3.13)
Seat 4: pentium67 ($0.72)
Seat 5: DeadwitcH ($1.92)
Seat 6: jackgck ($2.07)
DeadwitcH posts the small blind of $0.01
jackgck posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #4
Holecards
Dealt to jackgck 
billyvoltairee calls $0.02
ALLinwithdaBEST stands up
RMBZ folds
pentium67 folds
DeadwitcH folds
jackgck raises to $0.06
billyvoltairee calls $0.04
Flop (Pot : $0.13)
  
jackgck checks
billyvoltairee checks
Turn (Pot : $0.13)
DeadwitcH adds $0.09
jackgck bets $0.10
billyvoltairee calls $0.10
River (Pot : $0.33)
19880801KLP sits down
jackgck checks
19880801KLP adds $2
billyvoltairee checks
Showdown
jackgck shows two pair, Queens and Sixes
billyvoltairee mucks
jackgck wins the pot ($0.31) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Summary
Total pot $0.33 | Rake $0.02
Board:
Seat 1: billyvoltairee mucked  - a pair of Queens
Seat 2: ALLinwithdaBEST is sitting out
Seat 3: RMBZ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: pentium67 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: DeadwitcH (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: jackgck (big blind) showed and won ($0.31) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Again, another "Should I have checked flop?" question. The reason I checked flop alot this session was because I am a big believer in the C-Bet. I almost always do it, and I think that's why I win so much money without showdown. I want to understand different ways to play the game though and that's why I want peoples opinions. I also felt like, if I bet flop nothing less than a Queen was calling me, and everything worse than me was folding. But then when I think about that, it doesn't really make sense does it? Because when he called the turn bet I immediately became afraid of a slowplayed queen, and checked river! Looking back, I really don't know what I was thinking. As played should I bet river? Should I have bet flop and folded to a big bet on later streets?
I guess this is the problem with people (semi)new to poker playing marginal hands preflop, but I feel like this is my chance to learn from you guys. If you're going through all these hands I really appreciate it and your advice. Thanks!
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Also, FML I am on (what feels like to me with a 50$ starting roll) a horrible downswing. Is this crap normal? Does it mean I'm playing bad? I feel like I'm most running bad and losing alot of 70/30 flips, but maybe I have a leak? I also realize it's a small sample but it's all I've got right now 
I posted my graph in my blog earlier this week when I was still up and alot of people said it looked good. Does it still look ok?
Thanks for advice in advance guys. I really appreciate it and look forward to opinions.
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JSquids United States. Apr 11 2009 07:12. Posts 1142 | | |
hand1: fine
hand2: fold pf
hand3: bet this all the way especially multiway
hand4:is fine
hand5: bet flop , hes going to fold there if he has nothing the same way he folded on turn , yourr just giving him a free card
hand6:i cant i have to go to work |
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genjix China. Apr 11 2009 08:18. Posts 2677 | | |
u only check that flop with the AQ hand cos if ur gonna cbet and get called u might as well call one bet on the turn instead. also u have a chance to trip up  also it often induces a bluff (checking flop) from other player |
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genjix China. Apr 11 2009 08:21. Posts 2677 | | |
| | On April 11 2009 06:12 JSquids wrote:
hand1: fine
hand2: fold pf
hand3: bet this all the way especially multiway
hand4:is fine
hand5: bet flop , hes going to fold there if he has nothing the same way he folded on turn , yourr just giving him a free card
hand6:i cant i have to go to work |
this is good advice, cept:
hand4- i play FR so might but id fold this pf since its a weak hand
hand6- u need to bet to protect ur hand |
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genjix China. Apr 11 2009 08:37. Posts 2677 | | |
hand7- dont mind slowplaying on this dry board
hand8- fold. bad odds to set mine
hand9- dont know about pf since its 6max, but open shoving flop vs shortie is best cos of the FE u have
hand10- ez call
hand11- fold flop... multiway OOP, paired flop likely to be drawing dead.
hand12- i either raise or fold these hands preflop
hand13- its multiway, so unlikely he's bluffing here and so likely ur hand is beat. bad spot to bluff esp on flop without much info
hand14- i dont like the raise since a few people are deep but not very deep and ur EP. if u need to double barrel then do it
hand15- hes the aggressor so hes the one that'd be cbetting. cant comment pf since its 6max and ppl are looser- idk
hand16- why bluff when ur hand has showdown value? u can win the pot just by checking
hand17- i charge him for his draws by betting heavy. this is not a time to slowplay
hand18- 1 reraise + 1 coldcall... idk
hand19- from flop onwards is fine. maybe get it all in there while ahead
hand20- is fine. do this often with reads myself
hand21- wow, id usually fold after he repops me cos this line is too often a ridicolously strong one
hand22- turn bet smaller
hand23- i think this hand is perfect. i treat those minbets like checking and just behave as i would anyway.
it is a small sample but that graph does look like you're losing lots of pots at the end so u could have leaks |
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genjix China. Apr 11 2009 08:38. Posts 2677 | | |
also my advice is not to mix FR and 6max cos ull get confused and be playing one too passive or the other too aggressive |
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PokerDoc88 Australia. Apr 11 2009 11:14. Posts 3527 | | |
hand1 bet
hand2 wtf raise stronger or fold pre
hand3 is ok altho i prefer bet flop check turn bet river
hand 4 instant fold pre
hand 5 betttttt and stop stealing so fkn weakly
hand 6 wtf check pre why are you raising this oop and so small ugh i want to stab my eyes, given that you did raise BET THIS FLOP you want to take the pot down right here coz most turn cards suck dick for your hand
hand 7 sucks you shouldn't donk on the turn like that, either 3bet flop or flat his raise, then cc turn cc river
hand 8 easy fold preflop you have horrible odds to setmine
hand 9 fold preflop DONT 4bet AJ that's spewwwwwwwww
hand 10 is ok hand
11 wtf don't raise flop, don't mess with people in limped pots, and don't try be a spastic with your shitty gutshot draw on a paired board -.-, finally DONT CHECK THE RIVER WHEN YOU HIT YOUR HAND, bet for value zzzzzzzzzz
hand 12 fold pre don't limp its terrible and JTo is terrible
hand 13 WTF why are you raising, once again you raise like a pussy and you have K7o which is HORRIBLE
hand 14 9To standard fold utg, hate how you play lots of shitty hands out of position
hand 15 your 3bet is weak as piss, make it at least .18, as played post-flop its ok, if you bet on flop its NOT a cbet its a DONK bet becoz you're not the pf aggressor
hand 16 sucks balls stop raising so weak with such shitty hands, as played you check flop so check turn too idk why you bet the turn thats really dumb, either bet flop or check the hand down
hand 17 i don't mind peeling flop, you have a spade and that flop is really dry so check and let him try spike a hand
hand 18 is fine
hand 19 you gotta make it at least .40, personally i'd go with .45 and then postflop is standard stackoff
hand 20 once again eww you raise so weak and with such shitty hands -.- raise harder or fold, raising weak like that is the worst thing you can do with any hand let alone shitty faggot hands liek K4, postflop i really hate it because its uncommon for donks to check-minraise even as a bluff line, if he does it a lot then make a note but doing this in a vaccuum at microlimits is begging to get asraped by stations
hand 21 is ok altho you raise like a bitch preflop once again, make it more
hand 22 bet flop easy
hand 23 i'd raise him on turn, it smells superweak and i refuse to give him credit for a decent hand, this line is almost 100% a draw |
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Critterer United Kingdom. Apr 11 2009 11:55. Posts 5337 | | |
heh a lot of hands
judging from the stats, you need to chill out with the 3bets, if ur asking these kind of questions you definitely don't have the postflop ability to play with a 10% 3bet
and also start folding to 3bets, 60% calling 3bets is definitely a huge spew, especially here where people generally 3bet kinda tight.
also like said stick with either 6max or fr to start with.
i cant b bothered to advice on all hands cos too many and others already have, but after looking thru them you are raising junk oop, and raising weakly too. which you need to cut out. raise to 4bb+1bb for every limper in every pot you play, if anything since you play nl2 which is deepstacked you need to raise MORE than 4bb+1 but stick with that is good.
play your hands face up, betbetbet whenever you have a decent hand and you will do well.
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Vivi57 United States. Apr 12 2009 01:16. Posts 314 | | |
Lets see...
1- fine
2- fold preflop
3- bet flop
4- fold pre, what was your plan if the flop came AT3
5- bet bet bet
I'm going to stop here and say that you need to raise more preflop (4bb + 1 per limper is standard). You also need to choose your preflop cards better.
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showf...46669&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1
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