Second nuts in omaha meands crap

Submitted by : killaherni

PokerStars Game #26146943546: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/03/19 19:57:17 CT [2009/03/19 20:57:17 ET]
Table Telamon III 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: susuper ($14.28 in chips)
Seat 2: chjbcollin ($9.90 in chips)
Seat 3: killaherni ($7.82 in chips)
Seat 4: DobboFish ($6 in chips)
Seat 5: Vinsom Cash ($4.43 in chips)
Seat 6: rll55 ($5.67 in chips)
chjbcollin: posts small blind $0.02
killaherni: posts big blind $0.05

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to killaherni
DobboFish: folds
Vinsom Cash: folds
rll55: folds
rll55 leaves the table
susuper: calls $0.05
chjbcollin: calls $0.03
killaherni: raises $0.05 to $0.10
susuper: calls $0.05
chjbcollin: calls $0.05

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.30)

   
chjbcollin: checks
killaherni: bets $0.25
susuper: calls $0.25
chjbcollin: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $0.80)

   
killaherni: bets $0.45
susuper: raises $1.70 to $2.15
killaherni: calls $1.70

River (Pot : $5.10)

   
killaherni: checks
susuper: bets $2.60
killaherni: calls $2.60

Showdown
susuper: shows (four of a kind, Jacks)
killaherni: mucks hand
susuper collected $9.80 from pot

Summary
Total pot $10.30 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: susuper (button) showed and won ($9.80) with four of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: chjbcollin (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: killaherni (big blind) mucked
Seat 4: DobboFish folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Vinsom Cash folded before Flop (didnt bet)

folding turn is fine

On March 19 2009 20:46 Fayth wrote: folding turn is fine

Are you kidding ?

On March 20 2009 00:08 Patrocle wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2009 20:46 Fayth wrote: folding turn is fine Are you kidding ?

villian just randomly decides to raise QQxx and bet river?

killaherni: raises $0.05 to $0.10

pot preflop or call instead

On March 20 2009 00:11 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2009 00:08 Patrocle wrote:   On March 19 2009 20:46 Fayth wrote: folding turn is fine Are you kidding ? villian just randomly decides to raise QQxx and bet river?

already seen at those stakes by some 80/20/5, even with TTxy to say the least....
although, i prefer check/call, Benyamine-style from the flop.

I'm a total Omaha noob, but isnt it very likely that he has a J here? I mean this is not Holdem. I wouldnt go too crazy with this hand, unless you think he is megacrazy.

On March 20 2009 08:55 ConquistadoR wrote: I'm a total Omaha noob, but isnt it very likely that he has a J here? I mean this is not Holdem. I wouldnt go too crazy with this hand, unless you think he is megacrazy.

the J is very likely, and so is a standard "I HAS A bOAT" overvalueing hand at this stake or I have the J bluff.
I think a Hud is even more crucial in Omaha than in Hold'em.
If the guy is a standard NL-tag-fish, then, let it go obv.

when I play I tend to cbet a lot, baisically all hands, so im thinking this dude could be making a move on me

On March 20 2009 16:49 killaherni wrote: when I play I tend to cbet a lot, baisically all hands, so im thinking this dude could be making a move on me

that's what i figure.

On March 19 2009 20:46 Fayth wrote: folding turn is fine

yeah his range is polarized between Jxxx and compete air, so pretty easy to let it go on the turn

and what are you doing min-raising pre?

2nd nuts is cra-p

results oriented imo

On March 21 2009 13:42 thewh00sel wrote: 2nd nuts is cra-p

:DDDDDDDDD ahahah epic reminder

this is probably a fold more often than not.

your preflop min raise is so terrible it's beyond words

On March 25 2009 21:25 TalentedTom wrote: your preflop min raise is so terrible it's beyond words

Tom doing what he does best

god nl2 is a variance clusterfuck then add plo to the mix...be prepared to move up in like 3months minimum lol

Simple math to aid you. You let 8 cards see the flop. You hold 4 and the turn is 4. That means there are 8 cards out of 52 accounted for, 44 not.

Just using simple random math, ignoring all actions, one of those players has a 8/44, or an 18.1% chance of having a J. Doesn't seem so implausible that he holds quads now does it?

2nd nuts lost a pot in Omaha? This is The. Worst. Beat. EVER!