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Patrocle   France. Mar 17 2009 15:44. Posts 623

we are a little bit deeper than the usual 100bb, the pot is $135 and I have $160.
I hesitated between check behind, bet 2/3 to 3/4 or pot.
But i'd like more ideas that "u have the nuts so all-in" cause we should also put vilain on a range of hands to extract as much value as possible.

What kind of hands could we put vilain on he could donkbet/call on flop ?

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Bejamin1   Canada. Mar 17 2009 17:22. Posts 7042

I think you're pretty much forced to bet again on the turn here, around 3/4th's

I do this only because given your holding AJ10x it's less likely for him to have a rundown that connected well with this board and given he didn't RR flop that's enough information for me to fire again. Then again I've been sick as a dog for two weeks now and haven't played at all during that time so I could just be talking out of my ass.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

Patrocle   France. Mar 17 2009 17:32. Posts 623


  On March 17 2009 16:22 Bejamin1 wrote:
I think you're pretty much forced to bet again on the turn here, around 3/4th's

I do this only because given your holding AJ10x it's less likely for him to have a rundown that connected well with this board and given he didn't RR flop that's enough information for me to fire again. Then again I've been sick as a dog for two weeks now and haven't played at all during that time so I could just be talking out of my ass.



ok for firing again. What are the type of hand you put him on ?
What's your plan if he reraise ?

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Zalfor   United States. Mar 17 2009 23:26. Posts 2236

i would put him on something like overcards + flush draw with maybe AJxxss

basically, i dont think its possible to get away from this hand, if he raise go all in

 Last edit: 17/03/2009 23:26

Patrocle   France. Mar 18 2009 01:21. Posts 623

So it's not exactly what happened, as i decided to check:

Submitted by : Patrocle

EverestPoker Game #4315721260: Table Damodar-5 - $1.00/$2.00 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:57:27 - 2009/02/19
Seat 1: OSENIE ($30.40)
Seat 2: holleboer ($149.30)
Seat 3: VinB64 ($197.00)
Seat 4: Hero ($227.00)
Seat 5: modulino ($175.60)
Seat 6: Chantalsy ($649.34)
modulino posts the small blind of $1.00
Chantalsy posts the big blind of $2.00
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to HeroJcAdTd2s
OSENIE folds
holleboer folds
VinB64 folds
Hero raises to $7.00
modulino folds
Chantalsy calls $5.00

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   3cJsTs
Chantalsy bets $15.00
Hero raises to $60.00
Chantalsy calls $45.00

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   3cJsTs8d
Chantalsy checks
Hero checks

River (Pot : $0.00)

   3cJsTs8dJh
Chantalsy checks
Hero ?



How much should I bet here ?

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marllboro   Greece. Mar 18 2009 09:39. Posts 494

i often like to check that turn to.and now on the river i will bet like 85$ but i dont think that he will call either way.

HEY IM A SCAMMER LULZ. 

GirlsRVicious   United States. Mar 18 2009 13:24. Posts 1094

Obv bet a michael jordan plus eighty imo

LOL Live Pokerz 

MysticJoey   Poland. Mar 18 2009 13:25. Posts 1430

bet as you missed your FD ;o how can we know how you bet that


Patrocle   France. Mar 18 2009 18:50. Posts 623


  On March 18 2009 12:25 MysticJoey wrote:
bet as you missed your FD ;o how can we know how you bet that



I'm obviously betting ...
I potted, but should i bet 1/3 or 2/3 to induce shove ?

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Bejamin1   Canada. Mar 19 2009 23:16. Posts 7042

Everything is revealed on the river so you may as well insta-pot it and hope they either have something or call thinking they are snapping off a bluff.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

Bejamin1   Canada. Mar 19 2009 23:19. Posts 7042


  On March 17 2009 16:32 Patrocle wrote:
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ok for firing again. What are the type of hand you put him on ?
What's your plan if he reraise ?


2p + FD, FD + Overpair. Those types of hands. He can't like that turn if he couldn't connect to it for the straight himself so I think its a good time to bet. I think given the way you played the flop its important not to be afraid until he gives you a reason to be. If he check raises All-in with the straight then bravo for him but at that point I think you have so much invested and the potential that he's just shoving a combo-draw with 2p so you just have to call it off anyway.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

Patrocle   France. Mar 20 2009 01:07. Posts 623


  On March 19 2009 22:19 Bejamin1 wrote:
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2p + FD, FD + Overpair. Those types of hands. He can't like that turn if he couldn't connect to it for the straight himself so I think its a good time to bet. I think given the way you played the flop its important not to be afraid until he gives you a reason to be. If he check raises All-in with the straight then bravo for him but at that point I think you have so much invested and the potential that he's just shoving a combo-draw with 2p so you just have to call it off anyway.



Thx for sharing your thinking process !

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doh   United States. Mar 23 2009 17:01. Posts 25

tough spot!


Patrocle   France. Mar 23 2009 21:07. Posts 623


  On March 23 2009 16:01 doh wrote:
tough spot!



if you randomly press on buttons, not that much.

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Fraser   Canada. Mar 24 2009 15:53. Posts 4605


  On March 23 2009 20:07 Patrocle wrote:
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if you randomly press on buttons, not that much.

only way to play omahaha


Patrocle   France. Mar 24 2009 17:24. Posts 623


  On March 24 2009 14:53 Fraser wrote:
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only way to play omahaha



I'm studying hard this game -making lots of statistics, so when I get stupid answers, i am a little bit piss off.

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whamm!   Albania. Mar 28 2009 01:24. Posts 11625

i think by the turn he was planning checkraise-allin or c/r and missed his draw, and since turn did prob give his range more outs if he did have some type of cdraw, just pot it imo


Patrocle   France. Mar 28 2009 09:57. Posts 623

Here is the hand btw:

Submitted by : Patrocle

EverestPoker Game #4315721260: Table Damodar-5 - $1.00/$2.00 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:57:27 - 2009/02/19
Seat 1: OSENIE ($30.40)
Seat 2: holleboer ($149.30)
Seat 3: VinB64 ($197.00)
Seat 4: Hero ($227.00)
Seat 5: modulino ($175.60)
Seat 6: Chantalsy ($649.34)
modulino posts the small blind of $1.00
Chantalsy posts the big blind of $2.00
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to HeroJcAdTd2s
OSENIE folds
holleboer folds
VinB64 folds
Hero raises to $7.00
modulino folds
Chantalsy calls $5.00

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   3cJsTs
Chantalsy bets $15.00
Hero raises to $60.00
Chantalsy calls $45.00

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   3cJsTs8d
Chantalsy checks
Hero checks

River (Pot : $0.00)

   3cJsTs8dJh
Chantalsy checks
Hero bets $135.00
Chantalsy calls $135.00

Showdown
Hero shows JcAdTd2s
Chantalsy shows Ac5dQsJd

Summary
Board: 3cJsTs8dJh
Hero collects $402.00



The only thing i'm thinking, is "is it a good GT-play", and am I missing some value ?

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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Mar 30 2009 16:23. Posts 8623

I'd shove turn since so many cards puts such a big penis up your ass on the river. As played I'd pot it cause it's "obvious" that you can't have JJ or TT and probably not any decent TJ either so I'd be curious as fuck if I was villian.


Patrocle   France. Mar 30 2009 19:17. Posts 623

Thx for the answer, that definitely makes sense.

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