[PLO200] Top 2, plan on connected/flushy board

The table was fairly tight, but didn't have really interesting reads on vilain. What are my plan on flop and on turn ? I really hesitated between cold calling and raising the flop.

Submitted by : Patrocle

EverestPoker Game #4315721260: Table Damodar-5 - $1.00/$2.00 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:57:27 - 2009/02/19
Seat 1: OSENIE ($30.40)
Seat 2: holleboer ($149.30)
Seat 3: VinB64 ($197.00)
Seat 4: Hero ($227.00)
Seat 5: modulino ($175.60)
Seat 6: Chantalsy ($649.34)
modulino posts the small blind of $1.00
Chantalsy posts the big blind of $2.00
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
OSENIE folds
holleboer folds
VinB64 folds
Hero raises to $7.00
modulino folds
Chantalsy calls $5.00

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy bets $15.00
Hero raises to $60.00
Chantalsy calls $45.00

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy checks
Hero ?

i think u have the nuts here.

all innnn

we are a little bit deeper than the usual 100bb, the pot is $135 and I have $160.
I hesitated between check behind, bet 2/3 to 3/4 or pot.
But i'd like more ideas that "u have the nuts so all-in" cause we should also put vilain on a range of hands to extract as much value as possible.

What kind of hands could we put vilain on he could donkbet/call on flop ?

I think you're pretty much forced to bet again on the turn here, around 3/4th's

I do this only because given your holding AJ10x it's less likely for him to have a rundown that connected well with this board and given he didn't RR flop that's enough information for me to fire again. Then again I've been sick as a dog for two weeks now and haven't played at all during that time so I could just be talking out of my ass.

On March 17 2009 16:22 Bejamin1 wrote: I think you're pretty much forced to bet again on the turn here, around 3/4th's I do this only because given your holding AJ10x it's less likely for him to have a rundown that connected well with this board and given he didn't RR flop that's enough information for me to fire again. Then again I've been sick as a dog for two weeks now and haven't played at all during that time so I could just be talking out of my ass.

ok for firing again. What are the type of hand you put him on ?
What's your plan if he reraise ?

i would put him on something like overcards + flush draw with maybe AJxxss

basically, i dont think its possible to get away from this hand, if he raise go all in

So it's not exactly what happened, as i decided to check:

Submitted by : Patrocle

EverestPoker Game #4315721260: Table Damodar-5 - $1.00/$2.00 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:57:27 - 2009/02/19
Seat 1: OSENIE ($30.40)
Seat 2: holleboer ($149.30)
Seat 3: VinB64 ($197.00)
Seat 4: Hero ($227.00)
Seat 5: modulino ($175.60)
Seat 6: Chantalsy ($649.34)
modulino posts the small blind of $1.00
Chantalsy posts the big blind of $2.00
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
OSENIE folds
holleboer folds
VinB64 folds
Hero raises to $7.00
modulino folds
Chantalsy calls $5.00

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy bets $15.00
Hero raises to $60.00
Chantalsy calls $45.00

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy checks
Hero checks

River (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy checks
Hero ?

i often like to check that turn to.and now on the river i will bet like 85$ but i dont think that he will call either way.

Obv bet a michael jordan plus eighty imo

bet as you missed your FD ;o how can we know how you bet that

On March 18 2009 12:25 MysticJoey wrote: bet as you missed your FD ;o how can we know how you bet that

I'm obviously betting ...
I potted, but should i bet 1/3 or 2/3 to induce shove ?

Everything is revealed on the river so you may as well insta-pot it and hope they either have something or call thinking they are snapping off a bluff.

On March 17 2009 16:32 Patrocle wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2009 16:22 Bejamin1 wrote: I think you're pretty much forced to bet again on the turn here, around 3/4th's I do this only because given your holding AJ10x it's less likely for him to have a rundown that connected well with this board and given he didn't RR flop that's enough information for me to fire again. Then again I've been sick as a dog for two weeks now and haven't played at all during that time so I could just be talking out of my ass. ok for firing again. What are the type of hand you put him on ? What's your plan if he reraise ?

2p + FD, FD + Overpair. Those types of hands. He can't like that turn if he couldn't connect to it for the straight himself so I think its a good time to bet. I think given the way you played the flop its important not to be afraid until he gives you a reason to be. If he check raises All-in with the straight then bravo for him but at that point I think you have so much invested and the potential that he's just shoving a combo-draw with 2p so you just have to call it off anyway.

On March 19 2009 22:19 Bejamin1 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2009 16:32 Patrocle wrote:   On March 17 2009 16:22 Bejamin1 wrote: I think you're pretty much forced to bet again on the turn here, around 3/4th's I do this only because given your holding AJ10x it's less likely for him to have a rundown that connected well with this board and given he didn't RR flop that's enough information for me to fire again. Then again I've been sick as a dog for two weeks now and haven't played at all during that time so I could just be talking out of my ass. ok for firing again. What are the type of hand you put him on ? What's your plan if he reraise ? 2p + FD, FD + Overpair. Those types of hands. He can't like that turn if he couldn't connect to it for the straight himself so I think its a good time to bet. I think given the way you played the flop its important not to be afraid until he gives you a reason to be. If he check raises All-in with the straight then bravo for him but at that point I think you have so much invested and the potential that he's just shoving a combo-draw with 2p so you just have to call it off anyway.

Thx for sharing your thinking process !

tough spot!

On March 23 2009 16:01 doh wrote: tough spot!

if you randomly press on buttons, not that much.

On March 23 2009 20:07 Patrocle wrote: Show nested quote + On March 23 2009 16:01 doh wrote: tough spot! if you randomly press on buttons, not that much.

only way to play omahaha

On March 24 2009 14:53 Fraser wrote: Show nested quote + On March 23 2009 20:07 Patrocle wrote:   On March 23 2009 16:01 doh wrote: tough spot! if you randomly press on buttons, not that much. only way to play omahaha

I'm studying hard this game -making lots of statistics, so when I get stupid answers, i am a little bit piss off.

i think by the turn he was planning checkraise-allin or c/r and missed his draw, and since turn did prob give his range more outs if he did have some type of cdraw, just pot it imo

Here is the hand btw:

Submitted by : Patrocle

EverestPoker Game #4315721260: Table Damodar-5 - $1.00/$2.00 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:57:27 - 2009/02/19
Seat 1: OSENIE ($30.40)
Seat 2: holleboer ($149.30)
Seat 3: VinB64 ($197.00)
Seat 4: Hero ($227.00)
Seat 5: modulino ($175.60)
Seat 6: Chantalsy ($649.34)
modulino posts the small blind of $1.00
Chantalsy posts the big blind of $2.00
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
OSENIE folds
holleboer folds
VinB64 folds
Hero raises to $7.00
modulino folds
Chantalsy calls $5.00

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy bets $15.00
Hero raises to $60.00
Chantalsy calls $45.00

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy checks
Hero checks

River (Pot : $0.00)

   
Chantalsy checks
Hero bets $135.00
Chantalsy calls $135.00

Showdown
Hero shows
Chantalsy shows

Summary
Board:
Hero collects $402.00