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proudlikeagod   Belarus. Jan 09 2009 06:10. Posts 9


1)Well..AKs in position. FD flop, 2 overcards..It was very likely QQ..Result:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/604191

2)before me fish with half of stack and then a tag or smb..Really on preflop i didnt even notice that after me was caldcall of that guy on BB.Anyway i could do nothing or what? or should i check-fold on the turn after strange call turn? ur oppinions dudes
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/604192

3)okay..next hand is doper and...bow wow on the river O_o
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/604193

thanks a lot for the comments!

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jan 09 2009 06:55. Posts 13829

Hand 1 is a KK hand that you played like... awful. Your 4bet should of been like 14 or 15? Then if they donk you ez shove. If they don't donk you bet/all-in that sucker. Min4bet is RIDICULOUSLY bad.

I don't know enough to comment on 2 at your limit

hand 3 is just a cooler.

pretty sure you mislabeled all of those hands btw. The descriptions don't match at all lol.

 Last edit: 09/01/2009 06:55

4Kingell   United Kingdom. Jan 09 2009 07:17. Posts 1453

1). Night said all there is to say - only yourself to blame
2). Strange line from him with AA but I don't think his c/r on that flop is often a bluff when you 3bet his UTG raise PF and lead flop, unless you have some bad history/image. I can find a fold here but many will probably just say shove. You have zero FE, you're almost always flipping and I am a flipping nit:
Board: Jh 3h 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.963% 39.68% 07.28% 15320 2812.50 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 53.037% 45.75% 07.28% 17665 2812.50 { JJ+, 77, 33, AKs, AJs, AKo, AJo }

Even if you take 33/77 out then it is still 50/50.

3) Cooler

If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. Sun Tzu Last edit: 09/01/2009 07:18

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 09 2009 07:54. Posts 9634

hand 1 : u deserve that keep min4betting with KK preflop rofl
hand 2: cooler
hand 3: cooler


proudlikeagod   Belarus. Jan 09 2009 07:56. Posts 9

sorry guys for mistakes in posting.. just 2ond time i post on this forum and site
mm..i didnt noticed the limper in KK hand could i fold flop, when im in pot yet? he donks me raise. and then a half on the stack on the board..so..

4kingell why 33/77 is still 50/50 mm?could i've already gave 1/3 of the stack in pot?


terrybunny19240   United States. Jan 09 2009 08:01. Posts 13829

Heh the problem with the KK hand is that you min4bet, which basically tells them "Hey I have a monster and I'd love to stack off on the flop hurr hurr", and you give them pretty good odds to call your bet and setmine you with such a small raise. You need to make the big 3x the 3bet raise to $15 or whatever to deny them proper odds to call.. Then you can more safely stack off on most flops.


4Kingell   United Kingdom. Jan 09 2009 08:24. Posts 1453


  On January 09 2009 06:56 proudlikeagod wrote:

4kingell why 33/77 is still 50/50 mm?could i've already gave 1/3 of the stack in pot?




Just talking about pure equity for the ranges I mentioned - so removing 33/77 (which should be less likely as he called your PF 3bet):

Board: Jh 3h 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.856% 42.25% 08.61% 13802 2812.50 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 49.144% 40.54% 08.61% 13243 2812.50 { JJ+, AKs, AJs, AKo, AJo }

You can't think about what you've put in the pot - only what you have to put in and what you can win.

You are putting $42 in to win an effective pot of $63 (as he has to call). So I guess you only need to win > 33% of the time to make a profit so I guess it is a clear call actually.

If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. Sun Tzu  

 



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