NL200: set 200bb, river flushed me down the toilet

Submitted by : MadeInPolanD

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$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Hero $574.00 USD
Seat 5: frasse11 $213.85 USD
Seat 6: elvividor $306.10 USD
Seat 7: mutjokoff $43.95 USD
Seat 8: X Pallu X $380.20 USD
Hero posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
frasse11 posts big blind [$2.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
elvividor folds
mutjokoff calls [$2.00 USD]
X Pallu X raises [$8.00 USD]
Hero calls [$7.00 USD]
frasse11 calls [$6.00 USD]
mutjokoff calls [$6.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $32.00)

   
Hero checks
frasse11 checks
mutjokoff checks
X Pallu X bets [$32.00 USD]
Hero raises [$96.00 USD]
frasse11 folds
mutjokoff folds
X Pallu X calls [$64.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $224.00)

   
Hero bets [$156.00 USD]
X Pallu X calls [$156.00 USD]

River (Pot : $536.00)

   
Hero checks
X Pallu X bets and is all-in [$120.20 USD]

vs described villain i would practically re-pot flop cuz i imagine he is calling down w/ a flush draw/straight draw/TPTK+ almost no matter what, so like 120 on flop, 220 on turn, and then shove rest on the river.

w/ how hand played shove river or c/c doesn't make that much difference imo (both of you r committed no matter what) but ya I think u gotta call cuz ur getting 5.5:1

i think as playes is fine, except just shove the river it's not like you're folding.

No point in checking river, he is betting all his better hands and checking his worse, no draws missed so just omg fuck it shove and hope he calls with some weird 2p or A high.
Im not sure where but it feels to me like you fucked up somewhere with leaving these stack sizes on the river, maybe raise close to pot on flop and jam turn or maybe make a smaller bet on the turn so he can think he has FE, dunno...

i think bet sizing is fine, it's not like he is getting odds on a flushdraw. you could make it 166 or 176 on the turn but that doesn't make tooo much of a difference to me.

I like shoving turn, even though he folds FD often. The board cant be more draw heavy and u dont know whether he has 8 or FD, or both (or 4...64s maybe...I think this hand actually calls shove often, because he has many outs + he can put u on some draw).

just shove river, c/c sucks c/f sucks

On January 09 2009 12:35 SakiSaki wrote: just shove river, c/c sucks c/f sucks

just shove river, no matter what hand he has hes played it in a -ev way, so if you get fag'd oh well

shove/muck imo

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shove the river

On January 09 2009 14:26 PoorUser wrote: just shove river, no matter what hand he has hes played it in a -ev way, so if you get fag'd oh well

actually our gay turn bet makes it +EV for him to chase flush draws that turned a straight draw hes gonna show a profit even without improving by the river



but yeah who gives a shit shove the river is the best line

lol if you make flop that big, might as well shove the turn

i don't see why you should shove turn. as played is fine expect you just shove river. overbet shoving the turn does'nt make that many sense to me to be honest.

if he has 34ss then shit happens. After the turn bet you are never folding, ever.

flop is OK but your turn bet is too small . I much prefer 190-200 . Shove river no matter what.

It's not that much of an overbet and if he's gonna call 160 on the turn he's gonna call 260 as well given that it's going in on the river anyway.

Just saying that he should figure out a betting line before he randomly raises the flop to 96. I think raising flop to 118 or w/e and shoving turn or raising to 72, betting 130 on turn and the rest on river are better lines.