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milkman   United States. Jan 09 2009 04:12. Posts 5719

Submitted by : milkman

Full Tilt Poker Game #9936885579: Table Bark (deep) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:43:22 ET - 2009/01/09
Seat 1: Gerrard37 ($54.75)
Seat 2: ChokeOnPretzel ($42.75)
Seat 3: S1KLYF ($50)
Seat 4: Delfin33 ($63.85)
Seat 5: b3asy516 ($139.10)
Seat 6: WDuarte ($61.65)
Seat 7: Samoaja ($113.90)
Seat 8: Baysidebabe ($49.20)
Seat 9: missthang084 ($100)
missthang084 posts the small blind of $0.25
Gerrard37 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8

Holecards
Dealt to S1KLYFKcAd
ChokeOnPretzel folds
ChokeOnPretzel stands up
S1KLYF raises to $1.75
Delfin33 folds
b3asy516 folds
WDuarte folds
Samoaja calls $1.75
Baysidebabe folds
missthang084 folds
Gerrard37 folds

Flop (Pot : $4.25)

   4c9h7c
S1KLYF checks
Samoaja bets $3
S1KLYF calls $3

Turn (Pot : $10.25)

   4c9h7cJc
S1KLYF checks
Samoaja checks

River (Pot : $10.25)

   4c9h7cJc9c
S1KLYF bets $5.50
Samoaja has 15 seconds left to act
Samoaja has requested TIME
Samoaja raises to $20



i dont use stats.. what u guys think? Fold, Flat, RR? I think RR is bad because if hes bluffing hes not gonna call, i dont think a Ten RR's so im only getting value out of a Q and im losing a buyin if hes got the A.

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DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Jan 09 2009 04:14. Posts 8623

It's a paired board, it's not the 2nd nuts. A raise would be a bluff and his line makes no sense for a bluff. I'd fold.


Exhilarate   United States. Jan 09 2009 05:08. Posts 5453

i agree with dusty, i think bet/fold on river looks fine.


vlseph   United States. Jan 09 2009 05:35. Posts 3026

i dont think Qc will reraise here esp this big. maybe not even Ac, that'd probably just minraise you or like 13~
i would have to put villain on a full house or quads here more often than over flush.

that said easy fold =(

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

proudlikeagod   Belarus. Jan 09 2009 06:15. Posts 9

bet/fold


edzwoo   United States. Jan 09 2009 14:11. Posts 5911

Fold, Qc won't do this.


TallyHo   Malaysia. Jan 09 2009 14:37. Posts 384

your small bet induced this, just don't expect him to show up with a lower flush here
btw I don't really like your flop play

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bane   United States. Jan 09 2009 16:37. Posts 2379

if you bet bigger and he raised you then would this be an easy fold?


NeillyJQ   United States. Jan 09 2009 17:05. Posts 8947

im pretty sure u need some type of read from him or notes to be able to call this

on a bigstack ip vs a thinking player i will repop this to around 20 as well sometimes, need more info

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

TheReason   United States. Jan 10 2009 01:18. Posts 178

Jesus, this is an easy fold for most 10NL players, are you retarded?


terrybunny19240   United States. Jan 10 2009 01:40. Posts 13829


  On January 10 2009 00:18 TheReason wrote:
Jesus, this is an easy fold for most 10NL players, are you retarded?



not an awesome post, don't be a asshole


roflcopter   United States. Jan 10 2009 01:46. Posts 620


  On January 09 2009 13:37 TallyHo wrote:
your small bet induced this, just don't expect him to show up with a lower flush here
btw I don't really like your flop play


how would you play flop? just curious.

KwarK_uK: and if that was a bluff you deserved the pot for ballerness 

collegesucks   United States. Jan 10 2009 02:17. Posts 5780


  On January 10 2009 00:46 roflcopter wrote:
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how would you play flop? just curious.


bet/fold or c/f depedning on player most likely c/f


roflcopter   United States. Jan 10 2009 02:21. Posts 620


  On January 10 2009 01:17 collegesucks wrote:
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bet/fold or c/f depedning on player most likely c/f


oops thought hero was villain. now I see the problem

KwarK_uK: and if that was a bluff you deserved the pot for ballerness 

TallyHo   Malaysia. Jan 10 2009 03:43. Posts 384


  On January 09 2009 15:37 bane wrote:
if you bet bigger and he raised you then would this be an easy fold?



it still depends after all but betting bigger makes him less likely to bluff because hero's small river bet represents just what he has in general. it's quite an unusual river situation tho because of hero's passive flop play

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ShadowDrgn   United States. Jan 10 2009 05:00. Posts 1156


  On January 09 2009 04:35 vlseph wrote:
i would have to put villain on a full house or quads here more often than over flush.



Why would he have checked behind on the turn with a set when the flop bet was called?

I also don't see why his line doesn't make sense for a bluff. It looks to me like he bet flop IP to try to take the pot down, then decided not to double barrel. Hero's river bet was weak so he goes for a bluff.


YoMeR   United States. Jan 10 2009 05:54. Posts 12438

if someone bitch bets into me like that i'ma do the raisey daisey.

that said prolly fold.

eZ Life. 

vlseph   United States. Jan 10 2009 14:54. Posts 3026


  On January 10 2009 04:00 ShadowDrgn wrote:
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Why would he have checked behind on the turn with a set when the flop bet was called?

I also don't see why his line doesn't make sense for a bluff. It looks to me like he bet flop IP to try to take the pot down, then decided not to double barrel. Hero's river bet was weak so he goes for a bluff.


cause two draws complete on the turn.

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

milkman   United States. Jan 10 2009 17:14. Posts 5719

lol i never noticed the board paired lol, its like one of those hidden ones

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

collegesucks   United States. Jan 11 2009 00:21. Posts 5780


  On January 10 2009 16:14 milkman wrote:
lol i never noticed the board paired lol, its like one of those hidden ones



HOLY SHIT me too

i was like snap! and then i read the comments and was like paired? WHAT.. and then it took me another 30 secs to find it.


 
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