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[NL5] weak overpair in low paired board 4 way

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Uptown   . Jan 07 2009 20:27. Posts 3557

Kristo (Raiser) is 70/20/4 over 15 hands (worthless but I guess it's better than nothing.)

drog88 is 24/16/4 over 400+ hands
bownangel is 50/0/1 over 20 hands
SiKWiTiTfLiP is 39/13/3 over 30 hands

Submitted by : Uptown

PokerStars Game #23675754813: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/01/07 20:18:45 ET
Table Juliet VIII 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Kristo34 ($11.95 in chips)
Seat 2: bownangel ($9.17 in chips)
Seat 3: Uptown133 ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 4: thedrog88 ($9.51 in chips)
Seat 5: SiKWiTiTfLiP ($5.25 in chips)
Uptown133: posts small blind $0.02
thedrog88: posts big blind $0.05

Holecards
Dealt to Uptown133 8h8c
SiKWiTiTfLiP: calls $0.05
Kristo34: raises $0.20 to $0.25
bownangel: calls $0.25
Uptown133: calls $0.23
thedrog88: calls $0.20
SiKWiTiTfLiP: calls $0.20

Flop (Pot : $1.25)

   2c2d7s
Uptown133: checks
thedrog88: checks
SiKWiTiTfLiP: checks
Kristo34: bets $0.50



What's the best move here considering (1) loose villain (2) 4way (3) OOP all the way.

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Half Pot!Last edit: 07/01/2009 20:28

vlseph   United States. Jan 07 2009 20:55. Posts 3026

i think raising is the best moves to try and isolate the donkeys, it's likely kristo is taking a small stab at the pot.
you can't flat cause there are lots of overcards you don't want to let people see for cheap.
however if someone 3 bets you on flop i would throw it away on most cases.

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

collegesucks   United States. Jan 07 2009 21:21. Posts 5780

lead


thestoryteller   Singapore. Jan 07 2009 22:56. Posts 319

As a general rule, you don't want to play your hands slowly in a multiway pot. You could be up against many draws, any of which could get there on a later street.

In this case, the board is very dry, which is good for your hand. You don't need to worry about people drawing to a straight or a flush. What you need to be worried about are people holding 2 overcards like KQ or AJ, because they could make a higher pair on a later street. These people are likely to fold to a bet.

So lead out on the flop and get all these people to fold. If you check and nobody bets, you'll be in trouble if an overcard comes on the turn. Basically, you're leading to defend your hand which might be best now, but will probably not be soon.


Uptown   . Jan 07 2009 23:14. Posts 3557

Just had a similar spot like this, where I had 66 and was first to act on a 223 board, lead out for about 2/3 and took it down 3 way, putting your advice to good use thanks~

Half Pot! 

Sicks Macks   United States. Jan 08 2009 08:44. Posts 3929

I usually just check/call a small bet like this oop because few players fire 3 barrels 4-way with worse hands than yours, so you'll be able to play the hand pretty straightforward. I think raising is bad on such a dry flop because you never get action from worse and villains tend to play pretty straightforward on later streets anyways.

Mr. Will Throwit 

Orome   Switzerland. Jan 08 2009 09:05. Posts 214

The great thing about multiway pots is that nobody's going to bluff, so this is a great spot to b/f.

Be careful if you get called though because people love to slowplay their monsters in multiway flops, hoping the other two guys will come along as well. There aren't any draws out, so that eliminates a lot of hands they might typically call with multiway.

If you get called in two spots, I think you should just c/f turn, especially if an overcard comes. I think I'd b/f turn HU, villain might be calling one street with something like A7s or two overcards, but if he raises you, you have to figure you're beat. I'd expect to take the pot down with the flop bet very often though.


YoMeR   United States. Jan 08 2009 15:38. Posts 12438

leading is cool check/calling is cool. then proceed according to what you think of the players that still decide to play.

if flop checks through and turn comes anything lower than a J i lead.

eZ Life. 

SpoR   United States. Jan 09 2009 01:32. Posts 1254


  On January 08 2009 08:05 Orome wrote:
The great thing about multiway pots is that nobody's going to bluff, so this is a great spot to b/f.



that's not true if you all check it there like a 50% chance the last guy will bet it for position. But yea if you bet they usually aren't calling or raising on a bluff.

ZERG!Last edit: 09/01/2009 01:33

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Jan 09 2009 04:09. Posts 8623

bet or check/call. Don't ever c/r unless you're up against the worst monkeys ever (in which case you'd want to get allin).


 



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