NL100 KK bad flop

Villain is 10/8 over a small 40 hand sample

Submitted by : edzwoo

PokerStars Game #23611159741: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/01/05 18:08:21 CT [2009/01/05 19:08:21 ET]
Table Olympia II 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: I_h8_p0ker ($20.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: UHave_3_Outs ($20 in chips)
Seat 6: ChristianS86 ($120.60 in chips)
Seat 8: pjub ($108 in chips)
Seat 9: PPMari ($21.50 in chips)
UHave_3_Outs: posts small blind $0.50
ChristianS86: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
pjub: raises $3 to $4
PPMari: folds
I_h8_p0ker: folds
Hero: raises $10 to $14
UHave_3_Outs: folds
ChristianS86: folds
pjub: calls $10

Flop (Pot : $29.50)

   
pjub: checks
Hero:

This is a fine flop...wtf!? Bet-call here all day. Or bet/bet/bet if you are getting flatted. You can't even THINK of folding KK on a flop like this in a 3bet pot. Ever.

EDIT: in before the real flaming starts...

if you can't check or bet, you should just fold.

bet 25 then all in

i usually bet and snap

On January 05 2009 18:53 phexac wrote: This is a fine flop...wtf!? Bet-call here all day. Or bet/bet/bet if you are getting flatted. You can't even THINK of folding KK on a flop like this in a 3bet pot. Ever. EDIT: in before the real flaming starts...

If he flats I have to be in great shape, but do I fold if a 9 comes?

Are you saying this is a fist pump get it in or just a super standard get it in?

this belongs in low stakes poker IMO

Hmm, okay I guess I was just being results oriented.

Submitted by : edzwoo

PokerStars Game #23611159741: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/01/05 18:08:21 CT [2009/01/05 19:08:21 ET]
Table Olympia II 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: I_h8_p0ker ($20.40 in chips)
Seat 2: edzwoo ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: UHave_3_Outs ($20 in chips)
Seat 6: ChristianS86 ($120.60 in chips)
Seat 8: pjub ($108 in chips)
Seat 9: PPMari ($21.50 in chips)
UHave_3_Outs: posts small blind $0.50
ChristianS86: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to edzwoo
pjub: raises $3 to $4
PPMari: folds
I_h8_p0ker: folds
edzwoo: raises $10 to $14
UHave_3_Outs: folds
ChristianS86: folds
pjub: calls $10

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $29.50)

   
pjub: checks
edzwoo: bets $19
McAlonso leaves the table
blunty31 joins the table at seat #7
pjub: raises $26 to $45
edzwoo: raises $41 to $86 and is all-in
pjub: calls $41

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $201.50)

   

River (Pot : $201.50)

   

Showdown
pjub: shows (three of a kind, Jacks)
edzwoo: mucks hand
pjub collected $198.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $201.50 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: I_h8_p0ker folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: edzwoo (button) mucked
Seat 4: UHave_3_Outs (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ChristianS86 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: pjub showed and won ($198.50) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 9: PPMari folded before Flop (didnt bet)

your obviously a full ring player, yes in full ring you can check this and proceed with caution (which is what your used to im guessing) , but when the game gets 6 handed or less you gotta adjust your play

Oh wow I didn't realize it was 6-handed. Yeah that makes my decision a lot easier.

it's probably a c-bet/fold on flop, or check and play cautiously on future streets
considering he is 10/8, and if he does c/r here, he's going to have a set almost always

and no it's not a fist pump get it in because a 10/8 will not c/r and turn QQ into bluff here, and AJs/AJo are never in his 3bet flatcalling range, he probably doesn't even raise AJ utg

i doubt a 10/8 multitabling nit at nl100 is going to adjust his play when the table gets to 6 handed... so assume its the same here since the villian is playing the same ranges as he would in a full table.

I dont see the bad flop?

On January 05 2009 23:02 JonnyCosMo wrote: I dont see the bad flop?

Maybe I'm a nit but I perceive it to be bad because I'm not doing very good equity wise vs all the big pairs, and I don't have a club.

This could be a leak though.

On January 05 2009 23:24 edzwoo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2009 23:02 JonnyCosMo wrote: I dont see the bad flop? I'm a nit This is a leak.

FYP

sick flop
check fold imo

Always get it in, not thread worthy.

Not sure why everyone is saying get it in. Bet/fold this flop.

1 get it in and take the cooler

2 what does FYP mean? I tried googleing it but i'm guessing it doesn't mean Five-Year plan or any of the other random crap google pulled up

fixed your post