[nl10] QQ against nit

villain is 15/11 over 27 hands..

Submitted by : sammejao

** Hand # 2299636676 starting - 2008-12-05 18:31:00
** Bubblegum Daze [Hold 'em] (0.05|0.10 NL - Cash Game) Real Money
kitupiikki sitting in seat 1 with $9.81
Hero sitting in seat 2 with $13.48
blackpoint sitting in seat 3 with $10.35
jankejonsson sitting in seat 4 with $3.96[Dealer]
naniokeliz sitting in seat 5 with $5.36
ukjimmy31 sitting in seat 6 with $2.43
naniokeliz posted the small blind - $0.05
ukjimmy31 posted the big blind - $0.10

Holecards
   
kitupiikki folded
Hero raised to $0.40
blackpoint raised to $1.00
jankejonsson folded
naniokeliz folded
ukjimmy31 folded
Hero raised to $2.80
blackpoint raised to $6.40

Fold....you are absolutely crushed here 92 percent of the time. He's almost always got kk+, ak at worst

yea, but should i make 4bet och could I flatcall his 3bet and stack of if I got the overpair?

Don't reraise his 3bet. Either flat call it or fold.

If you flat call it, you should not lead out on the flop. Check it, and look at his moves and make a decision then. And yes, when they 3bet you, usually they would have an AA,KK or AK at the lower stakes.

I think shoving is dumb, normal 4bet is fine. His three betting range includes a lot of hands you can get value from. You're OOP so the more money that goes in pre the better. I fold to his 5bet (because AK usually 5bet shoves here). Folding QQ to a 3bet is lol.

On December 05 2008 12:34 Sicks Macks wrote: I think shoving is dumb, normal 4bet is fine. His three betting range includes a lot of hands you can get value from. You're OOP so the more money that goes in pre the better. I fold to his 5bet (because AK usually 5bet shoves here). Folding QQ to a 3bet is lol.

Yea I would feel stupid if I fold to his 3bet.. flatcall/4bet is the options imo.. but im OOP.. Hm..

If I flatcall, what to do and on what board?

This is a spot I get into fairly often and I'd like to see what others think, considering I play it different every time.

27 hands isn't quite enough to fold this. get it in if you 4bet or just call his 3bet and stack off on good flops. sick betsizing tells by the villain tho.

what, he has 64?

yeah 64o(0)

4bet here is retarded, if you are going to 4bet you have to get it in and if that happens you are almost def beat, call the 3bet and observe his flop play like hhse said, if he has something stupid like AJ or air you need to let him think he is in control as long as possible so he can throw money at you

Dude wtf you can't 4-bet and then fold qq, that's blasphemy! Also your sample size makes his stats rather meaningless.

pf R QQ, when RR only call with set mining odds (1/20th relative stack) and fold if you miss or don't have odds to call. Play like it's AA KK. I wouldn't even stack off with KK here.

If I 4bet here I am going to 4bet a lot bigger because I'm out of position and I don't want to be in any really tough spots. 4betting bigger also helps you avoid this situation because if you 4bet to like 4 or 4.5 then you have like half your stack in and it makes it a really easy call if he shoves over.

I don't like flatting the 3bet because you're out of position.

shove you are completely pot committed against his range anyone who says this is a fold is retarted

Don't 4bet/fold QQ, in other words if you can't 4bet/get it in u gotta flat & play poker postflop, even if you're oop it's not that a disaster he's a nit and he's not gonna put you in very tough spots

On December 08 2008 06:56 smargiassi wrote: If I 4bet here I am going to 4bet a lot bigger because I'm out of position and I don't want to be in any really tough spots. 4betting bigger also helps you avoid this situation because if you 4bet to like 4 or 4.5 then you have like half your stack in and it makes it a really easy call if he shoves over. I don't like flatting the 3bet because you're out of position.

don't post advice pls

i would flat call his 3bet and re-evaluate flop, if no A or K comes on the flop i would check/call, same on turn and river. Also depends on structure of the board.

Or you can 4bet him like you did to find out where you stand, may be cheaper in the end. But then you have to lay it down to a 5 bet like he did in this hand.

if you wanna 4bet/fold QQ just get a lighter and set your money on fire you'll get the job done quicker

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