510 HU against passive nit

Against 90%+ of opoponents this is a mega easy value bet of course
But so far in ~100 hands of 2 tabling this player has done nothing but check call and check fold, he has 3-bet me two times and check folded postflop after I called and half pot on low boards. Just two hands ago we played this hand, (something which actually reached showdown) http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/578490
He also folds ~60% of his hands on the button + BB (nitty preflop) so I'm min opening almost every single button

My concern is that he may be terrible enough to check call better hand on the river and hes obv not check raising hands like A6, so all I beat in Ax range is A7/AT, but I'd feel very dirty checking back AJ after all the draws miss. He snap min check raised, bet turn after ~1 sec, and SNAP checked river*

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bet 99

132 imo

bet 5.99$, nuff for a breakfast at mc donalds

hmmm tbh i doubt i bet if what u say is true cuz he probably has nothing like 75% of the time, he has like something marginal 10% AJ'ish himself, or something he is playing retarded and checked.

basically tho my main reasoning with the description provided is that i want to see his hand

He can be so weak checking somthing like A2 here imo, hoping u bluff and not thinking he will get value if u got AT.

I dont see whats wrong with checking back given how you described him. I dont think he was c/r a weaker ace on flop that often and its not like you can get value out of a missed draw. Plus this way we get a note on how he plays w/e.

And ^^ the small bet is to induce snap call jam?

Obv check behind a dirt de durr

even given description i don't think we are gonna value own ourselves here that often by betting.

let's take this mofo to value town. we'll even hold his hand.

what do you think he has? if your answer is "i don't know" the information that we get from checking is far greater than any value that we can get out of a bet IMO.

go allin and let him hero call you with 9xcc

On November 30 2008 01:39 n0rthf4ce wrote: what do you think he has? if your answer is "i don't know" the information that we get from checking is far greater than any value that we can get out of a bet IMO.

agree. check for information. i don't see you getting much value out of his missed draws anyways, and there is a decent chance you are behind.

On November 30 2008 06:00 Rekrul wrote: go allin and let him hero call you with 9xcc

I think we are beat more often than he hero calls 9x. allin seems bad imo.

On November 30 2008 16:42 thundza wrote: Show nested quote + On November 30 2008 06:00 Rekrul wrote: go allin and let him hero call you with 9xcc I think we are beat more often than he hero calls 9x. allin seems bad imo.

lol

On November 30 2008 01:39 n0rthf4ce wrote: what do you think he has? if your answer is "i don't know" the information that we get from checking is far greater than any value that we can get out of a bet IMO.

checking behind to see what he min raises flop with looks cool to me

could u post the result after u get the answers u need ? im really curious if my read is right

On December 01 2008 08:48 Spitfiree wrote: could u post the result after u get the answers u need ? im really curious if my read is right

i also have a sick read vs players i never played

def value bet...

280ish looks good

good players min bet in this spot all day

its the difference between 6bb/100 and 5bb/100

you havent won any money online in a year rek, wtf are you talking about

On December 01 2008 11:49 RaSZi wrote: if you check behind on the river and you win vs Ax you can also make sick bluffs later on cause u checked a hand as strong as this.. ZIOMG NOW HE BETS UHM HE CHECKED AJ.. DOES NOT COMPUTE>> UHH Set.

This is my biggest beef with checking against a conventional opponent, this guy is giving up on every single small pot - it's not shaping up to the the type of match where i'm double floating him with a naked flush draw to bluff him on the river

minbetting is actually really cool because he calls 100% AND you get to see what he has AND he never bluffraises because he sucks

but then if he raises half pot you hate life

i vote for the 89cc or Q9cc

On November 30 2008 01:39 n0rthf4ce wrote: what do you think he has? if your answer is "i don't know" the information that we get from checking is far greater than any value that we can get out of a bet IMO.

thankyou for this...

On December 01 2008 12:13 kaboom wrote: def value bet... 280ish looks good

agreed, opponent isnt some random nitfish, im pretty sure he's been playing hu and 5/10 for a couple years

valuebet this all day

On December 01 2008 11:49 RaSZi wrote: if you check behind on the river and you win vs Ax you can also make sick bluffs later on cause u checked a hand as strong as this.. ZIOMG NOW HE BETS UHM HE CHECKED AJ.. DOES NOT COMPUTE>> UHH Set.

Wat.... lol

On December 03 2008 12:22 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2008 12:13 kaboom wrote: def value bet... 280ish looks good agreed, opponent isnt some random nitfish, im pretty sure he's been playing hu and 5/10 for a couple years valuebet this all day

I've never seen him around before, could be random nit running good / taking stab

wat raszi said is so wrong because it only makes your value betting range much smaller, meaning air is going to be a bigger part of your betting range on the river

On December 03 2008 18:07 Fayth wrote: wat raszi said is so wrong because it only makes your value betting range much smaller, meaning air is going to be a bigger part of your betting range on the river

yeh was trying to work out if it was a level or not

On December 03 2008 18:07 Fayth wrote: wat raszi said is so wrong because it only makes your value betting range much smaller, meaning air is going to be a bigger part of your betting range on the river

which means we can valuebet thinner in the future because villian is going to put us on a superpolarized range yes?