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st1nk3r   Bulgaria. Nov 27 2008 11:40. Posts 220

Submitted by : st1nk3r

***** Hand History for Game 1292290466 *****
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 27, 04:31:16 ET 2008
Table TURBO Monroeville Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: NumptyDumpty23 $97.50 USD
Seat 3: Allinwith4high $560.95 USD
Seat 5: Hero $308.00 USD
Seat 6: PrayingMantis1980 $370.00 USD
Seat 10: HadeDuTurNuIgen $408.00 USD
Allinwith4high posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$2.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QhQs
PrayingMantis1980 folds
HadeDuTurNuIgen raises [$8.00 USD]
NumptyDumpty23 folds
Allinwith4high folds
Hero calls [$6.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $17.00)

   7sTs6s
Hero checks
HadeDuTurNuIgen bets [$14.00 USD]
Hero calls [$14.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $45.00)

   7sTs6s5d
Hero checks
HadeDuTurNuIgen bets [$34.00 USD]
Hero calls [$34.00 USD]

River (Pot : $113.00)

   7sTs6s5d9d
Hero checks
HadeDuTurNuIgen bets [$92.00 USD]
Hero folds
HadeDuTurNuIgen wins $202.00 USD from main pot



he is 20/19 over 150hands not much info about him. But seems aggressive.
probably misplayed on every street dunno, i was pretty sure he will get it in pf with AK if i 3bet him, and i didnt want to flip deep.
What do you thing ?

PS: and yes i know i played this one pretty passive.

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bober1   United States. Nov 27 2008 11:46. Posts 666

Flat pre is fine, of course 3bet would be fine too. But on this flop theres just way too many bad turn cards/action killing turn cards to slowplay, c/r the flop and get it in.

edit: didnt realize this was 150bb deep. I'd still probably c/r the flop but i don't think i'd stack off on the flop. I don't expect to get 3bet on the flop too often though

 Last edit: 27/11/2008 13:37

ChromaX   Bulgaria. Nov 27 2008 13:04. Posts 392

i dont like calling with QQ oop , playing that hand OOP will get you in too many tough spots if you dont know exactly what you're doing but i guess you can do it occasionally to make your calling range pf a bit stronger

c/c flop seems like horrible line to take ,after that there's no point talking about turn and river ...just c/r flop call a shove

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Grass.nS)   United States. Nov 27 2008 13:11. Posts 400

I hate the flat pre, you're OOP so no need to get super fancy with QQ. It's 6 handed and you're facing a raise from the CO - 3BETTTTTTTTTT.

Since you flatted pre though, it's going to put you in some weird spots on a flop like this but you do have options. Do you have any history against this guy? I don't really like to C/C down against people you don't have much info on when your hand is strong but is still difficult to see where you stand when he keeps barreling. That said, I'd call this river bet against most players since I think if he has As then I think he'd barrel this river. I don't know how thin he vbets here but typically you won't see anyone betting worse than an 8 here and your hand is so underrepped.

Not sure how I feel about a C/R because I think it's going to overrep your hand and I don't think you're going to get calls from too many worse hands. Also, it's going to bloat the pot OOP where hitting a spade may not be so great so it's just going to make the situation worse.

I think I like C/C flop, then donkleading a blank turn since most players are going to check back a lot of hands with marginal showdown value like TJ here. Most likely fold to a raise, and if he flats on the turn, then I'd fire on blank turns or C/F on an 8 or 9 and C/C a spade.


Oly   United Kingdom. Nov 27 2008 13:34. Posts 3585

This is a nice line to take occasionally against an overaggro opponent with history, but the entire point of it is to snap now.

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TalentedTom    Canada. Nov 27 2008 19:06. Posts 20070

i was pretty sure he will get it in pf with AK if i 3bet him, and i didnt want to flip deep.

Sounds like you are very scared money, postflop also suggests you are very scared money, river is completley random you dont provide anywhere near enough information to make any descion

You should be getting it in on this flop BTW, this is a preety gin flop for slowplayed QQ

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MiPwnYa    Brasil. Nov 28 2008 02:06. Posts 5230

you tarped him now stick the shit in on that flop

 Last edit: 28/11/2008 02:06

TallyHo   Malaysia. Nov 28 2008 07:41. Posts 384

if you flat flop (which I consider overly passive), call river as played

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SakiSaki    Sweden. Nov 28 2008 09:37. Posts 9687

From now on, if anyone asks me what weak/tight means I'll link them this hand.

what wackass site is this nigga?  

SakiSaki    Sweden. Nov 28 2008 09:38. Posts 9687

3-bet preflop, raise flop bomb turn

what wackass site is this nigga?  

YoMeR   United States. Nov 28 2008 15:00. Posts 12438

i hate how you played every street. You want to build up a dynamic /w the players in a short handed game so that you can easily stack off QQ pf for value without thinking. And flatting QQ here is not how you do it. Plus you lose tons of value if you flat here and leave yourself to be out played badly...

actually why am i telling you how to play ABC. read a book or something.

as played i'd call river too. i mean he's getting you to fold the top of your range here with a 3 barrel. i think that's terribad imo.

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SpasticInk   Sweden. Nov 28 2008 23:22. Posts 6298

lol against this opponent you should 3-bet all day long preflop. i played a short session with him, and from that, he seemed awfully bad. but he might have been on tilt, but let see some examples:

Submitted by : SpasticInk

GAME #1282314255: Texas Hold'em NL $1/$2 2008-11-21 20:51:48
Table Bulqize (No DP)
Seat 1: Stonesman ($150.00 in chips)
Seat 5: korsarykan ($66.68 in chips) DEALER
Seat 6: Oddddjob ($196.00 in chips)
Seat 8: HadeDuTurNuIgen ($200.00 in chips)
Seat 10: ElGranDanton ($39.00 in chips)
Oddddjob : Post SB $1.00
HadeDuTurNuIgen: Post BB $2.00
Stonesman: Post BB $2.00

Holecards
Dealt to Oddddjob AhAc
ElGranDanton: Fold
Stonesman: Check
korsarykan: Fold
Oddddjob : Raise (NF) $12.00
HadeDuTurNuIgen: Raise (NF) $38.00
Stonesman: Fold
Oddddjob : Call $26.00

Flop (Pot : $31.00)

   2s3h6h
Oddddjob : Check
HadeDuTurNuIgen: Bet $70.00
Oddddjob : Raise (NF) $158.00
HadeDuTurNuIgen: Call $88.00

Turn (Pot : $189.00)

   2s3h6hJd

River (Pot : $189.00)

   2s3h6hJdQd

Summary
Total pot $391.00 Rake $3.00
HadeDuTurNuIgen: Shows QsKd
Oddddjob : wins $391.00



other than that he also shoved 44 vs AA in btn vs sb preflop-betting war 100bb.

he also shoved K9 on 976 board against my cbet (i held QQ and snapped ofcourse).


SpasticInk   Sweden. Nov 28 2008 23:28. Posts 6298

and got sucked out of course.

but from that short session w/ him he seemed really bad


CruiseR   Poland. Nov 29 2008 07:03. Posts 682


  On November 28 2008 08:38 SakiSaki wrote:
3-bet preflop, raise flop bomb turn



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