OMAHA...bad river push?

Full Tilt Poker Game #9152801127: $4,000 Guarantee (69886001), Table 22 - 30/60 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 21:54:58 ET - 2008/11/24
Seat 1: johnnyaxxe (3,830)
Seat 2: dannie31 (3,330)
Seat 3: leathercheerio (5,375)
Seat 4: WhyoWhy (8,619)
Seat 5: k4k4k4 (3,083)
Seat 6: belkerpacker (4,198)
Seat 7: StupidBET (5,355)
Seat 8: 343426 (8,955)
Seat 9: BLAZE024 (1,290)
belkerpacker posts the small blind of 30
StupidBET posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to StupidBET [8d As 4h 4d]
343426 folds
BLAZE024 calls 60
johnnyaxxe calls 60
dannie31 folds
leathercheerio folds
WhyoWhy calls 60
k4k4k4 folds
belkerpacker calls 30
StupidBET checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 3s 4s]
belkerpacker bets 60
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET calls 60
BLAZE024 calls 60
johnnyaxxe calls 60
WhyoWhy folds
*** TURN *** [2d 3s 4s]
belkerpacker bets 60
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET raises to 180
BLAZE024 calls 180
johnnyaxxe calls 180
belkerpacker calls 120
*** RIVER *** [2d 3s 4s Jc]
belkerpacker bets 60
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET raises to 540
BLAZE024 folds
johnnyaxxe raises to 1,500
belkerpacker folds
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET has requested TIME
StupidBET raises to 5,055, and is all in
johnnyaxxe calls 2,030, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 1,525 returned to StupidBET
*** SHOW DOWN ***
StupidBET shows [8d As 4h 4d] a full house, Fours full of Threes
johnnyaxxe shows [Tc 3c Th 3d] four of a kind, Threes
johnnyaxxe wins the pot (8,380) with four of a kind, Threes
The blinds are now 40/80
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,380 | Rake 0
Board: [2d 3s 4s Jc 3h]
Seat 1: johnnyaxxe showed [Tc 3c Th 3d] and won (8,380) with four of a kind, Threes
Seat 2: dannie31 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: leathercheerio didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: WhyoWhy folded on the Flop
Seat 5: k4k4k4 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: belkerpacker (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 7: StupidBET (big blind) showed [8d As 4h 4d] and lost with a full house, Fours full of Threes
Seat 8: 343426 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: BLAZE024 folded on the River

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Submitted by : asdf2000

Full Tilt Poker Game #9152801127: $4,000 Guarantee (69886001), Table 22 - 30/60 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 21:54:58 ET - 2008/11/24
Seat 1: johnnyaxxe (3,830)
Seat 2: dannie31 (3,330)
Seat 3: leathercheerio (5,375)
Seat 4: WhyoWhy (8,619)
Seat 5: k4k4k4 (3,083)
Seat 6: belkerpacker (4,198)
Seat 7: StupidBET (5,355)
Seat 8: 343426 (8,955)
Seat 9: BLAZE024 (1,290)
belkerpacker posts the small blind of 30
StupidBET posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to StupidBET
343426 folds
BLAZE024 calls 60
johnnyaxxe calls 60
dannie31 folds
leathercheerio folds
WhyoWhy calls 60
k4k4k4 folds
belkerpacker calls 30
StupidBET checks

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $300.00)

   
belkerpacker bets 60
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET calls 60
BLAZE024 calls 60
johnnyaxxe calls 60
WhyoWhy folds
*** TURN *** ]
belkerpacker bets 60
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET raises to 180
BLAZE024 calls 180
johnnyaxxe calls 180
belkerpacker calls 120
*** RIVER ***
belkerpacker bets 60
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET raises to 540
BLAZE024 folds
johnnyaxxe raises to 1,500
belkerpacker folds
StupidBET has 15 seconds left to act
StupidBET has requested TIME
StupidBET raises to 5,055, and is all in
johnnyaxxe calls 2,030, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 1,525 returned to StupidBET

Showdown
StupidBET shows a full house, Fours full of Threes
johnnyaxxe shows four of a kind, Threes
johnnyaxxe wins the pot (8,380) with four of a kind, Threes
The blinds are now 40/80

Summary
Total pot 8,380 | Rake 0
Board:  
Seat 1: johnnyaxxe showed and won (8,380) with four of a kind, Threes
Seat 2: dannie31 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: leathercheerio didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: WhyoWhy folded on the Flop
Seat 5: k4k4k4 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: belkerpacker (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 7: StupidBET (big blind) showed and lost with a full house, Fours full of Threes
Seat 8: 343426 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: BLAZE024 folded on the River

I might just call johnnyaxxe's raise to 1500. I think that is better than raising. It seems as though his most likely hands are:

jj
33
spades with j3
spades with 23
spades with 34
possible but unlikely 22


of these hands I think only j3, 33, jj, and *maybe* 34 reraise you to 1500

so, with him having that range, I think u should def flat the 1500

I find people stack off a lot lighter in Omaha tourney and I don't think I could ever do anything but shove with a smile on my face in this situation.

bejamin you could easily be right

this one is definitely highly dependent on what you think of the player

depends what buy in tourney this is the lower buy in the better a shove is

this is usually a slam dunk raise imo. dependent on player in the slight cases that its not.

I'm with Ben and Tom on this one just because I think any fish playing in a tourney like this would love to go crazy with any boat here as played throughout the entire hand and pay us off when we shove the river.

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