statistical poker software

Hi,
I'm a low stakes player and an oldschool spanish starcraft player that arrived here from teamliquid.net. I'm not a hardcore grinder but I intend to start expending more time on poker as I finished university and have more time available.
This weekend I played on a 60€ buyin tournament that had 230 entrants in Madrid and I finished 8th that gave me 900€ I am willing to spend some of the money on statistical poker software as PokerTraker, poker office, HEM.
I know there has been many threads of discussion about it but people tend to flame and I dont get a clear conclusion. I will be playing mainly on poker stars, full tilt poker and the ipoker network. I want to know which software would you recommend and why, or which wouldn't recommend and why.

Thanks.

ps: my TeamLiquid account: BishopONe, battle.net europe: OS)PRiDE.

Most people will probably say Holdem Manager, but Pocker Tracker isn't bad either. Both have hud's which are very useful for multitabling. If i were you, I would try a trial on both and go with the one you like.

The software will also provide you with resources to analyze your game and improve so definitely would recommend one of the two.

good luck

i use HEM, haven't tried PT3. i've read tons of comments from users of both that HEM > PT3 and i've yet to hear anything at all about PT3 being better in any single aspect.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/forum/search.php

Both of them fucking suck. Get both trials and decide which you like better.

Both are pretty nice. I like PT3's interface better and it's easier for me to bring up graphs and stats.. however the Hud on PT3 seems to be way slower if you do lots of tables while HEM is super fast.

I like my HUD more then I do random insane weird stats so i go with HEM.

PT3 ftw

On November 23 2008 13:14 Roald wrote: Both of them fucking suck.

lol
know anything better?

HEM is better than pokertracker in a lot of aspects.

One aspect is that the software runs WAY more smoothly than PT3 and it's compatibility with the HUD is awesome.

i still use pt2 and pahud~ i like it

IMO :

- both are really ugly but PT3 is ugly in a kind of utilitarian way whilst HEM is just full of flashy rollover buttons and stuff which I find distracting. I hate the flash website for HEM. The PT3 website is more my cup of tea.

- HEM does nice equity calculations so you can see how well you should've run and whinge, but I don't trust them and think they're probably buggy (like, I'm suspicious that it gets it wrong with uncalled portions of all ins). There are probably tools out there that hook into the PT3 database to do the same thing.

- PT3 gives you a 60day trial which is great, HEM has only about 10 days. In 60 days the pt3 hud will pay for itself at micro limits, HEM hud won't. But over their lifetimes both will more than pay for themselves. If you don't suck.

- HEM is the more recent product and seems to be made by a one-man-band who is perfectly competent whilst PT3 has a bit of a team behind it including people dedicated to support on the 2p2 forum. HEM guy is a workaholic coding maniac I think.

- both are complex pieces of software that have bugs and crash randomly. In my experience.

Thanks for all the replies, experience about these programs is highly apriciated. My computer isn't that fast so I think HEM will be my final choice, but I'll download both and give them a try.

Thanks again

PT3 was way to slow and buggy for me, ended up going with HEM. Everythings seems rather nice and smooth there.

pt3 > hem for me now. hem just fucking tilts me with all the options i dont give a rat's ass about.

On November 23 2008 19:07 mknybtlr wrote: IMO : - both are really ugly but PT3 is ugly in a kind of utilitarian way whilst HEM is just full of flashy rollover buttons and stuff which I find distracting. I hate the flash website for HEM. The PT3 website is more my cup of tea. - HEM does nice equity calculations so you can see how well you should've run and whinge, but I don't trust them and think they're probably buggy (like, I'm suspicious that it gets it wrong with uncalled portions of all ins). There are probably tools out there that hook into the PT3 database to do the same thing. - PT3 gives you a 60day trial which is great, HEM has only about 10 days. In 60 days the pt3 hud will pay for itself at micro limits, HEM hud won't. But over their lifetimes both will more than pay for themselves. If you don't suck. - HEM is the more recent product and seems to be made by a one-man-band who is perfectly competent whilst PT3 has a bit of a team behind it including people dedicated to support on the 2p2 forum. HEM guy is a workaholic coding maniac I think. - both are complex pieces of software that have bugs and crash randomly. In my experience.

actually pt3 is far more recent than hem and has an incomparably greater history of bugs and crashes than hem

HEM runs flawlessly.....

HMm I have 8gigs of RAM though....might have something to do with it lol.

I've tried both trial versions and actually poker tracker runs smoothly, I have to say I dont mass multitable I only play 2-4 tables. I can't get HEM to load my ipokernet history, while PokerTracker loaded the history with no hassle.
I'll continue with poker tracker till I finnish the trial before my final decission.