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NL2 should I fold KK to small pf RR's?

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genjix   China. Nov 21 2008 21:02. Posts 2677

i should fold this right? people only do this with AA... I remember as I was RR him I knew that he had AA.

i understand that if someone raises... and theres a bunch of callers... someone shoves, or raises heavy... then thats dead money and they're trying to do a squeeze... but when you raise and they RR.

would it be a leak if i fold KK to pf RR (unless for set mining)?

Submitted by : genjix

PokerStars Game #22233100124: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/11/21 11:07:50 ET
Table 'Eleonora' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: benicons ($1.79 in chips)
Seat 3: tjalfe86 ($4.35 in chips)
Seat 4: cannon77 ($4.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Russak0505 ($2.42 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($4.93 in chips)
Seat 9: anonim 21 ($2.42 in chips)
tjalfe86: posts small blind $0.01
cannon77: posts big blind $0.02

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KdKc
Russak0505: folds
Bionic_Peon was removed from the table for failing to post
Hero : raises $0.06 to $0.08
anonim 21: folds
benicons: folds
tjalfe86: raises $0.06 to $0.14
cannon77: folds
Hero : raises $0.28 to $0.42
tjalfe86: raises $0.28 to $0.70
A_Baldwin joins the table at seat #6
anonim 21 leaves the table
Hero : raises $4.23 to $4.93 and is all-in
tjalfe86: calls $3.65 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.58) returned to Hero

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $8.72)

   Tc5dQs

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $8.72)

   Tc5dQs9d

River (Pot : $8.72)

   Tc5dQs9dTh

Showdown
tjalfe86: shows AsAh (two pair, Aces and Tens)
Hero : mucks hand
tjalfe86 collected $8.32 from pot

Summary
Total pot $8.72 | Rake $0.40
Board  Tc5dQs9dTh
Seat 2: benicons (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tjalfe86 (small blind) showed AsAh and won ($8.32) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 4: cannon77 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Russak0505 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hero mucked KdKc
Seat 9: anonim 21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



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Submitted by : genjix

PokerStars Game #22233123401: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/11/21 11:08:57 ET
Table 'Izar' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($4.97 in chips)
Seat 2: Ulysse9 ($0.97 in chips)
Seat 3: wenkman79 ($5.37 in chips)
Seat 4: *patience*15 ($1.81 in chips)
Seat 5: ibuzi ($4.71 in chips)
Seat 6: rozil ($4.97 in chips)
Seat 7: pmkalltheway ($1.99 in chips)
Seat 8: sunny4603 ($5.29 in chips)
Seat 9: CptTomMantel ($3.40 in chips)
wenkman79: posts small blind $0.01
*patience*15: posts big blind $0.02

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KdKh
ibuzi: folds
*patience*15 said, "bob"
rozil: folds
pmkalltheway: folds
sunny4603: folds
CptTomMantel: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Hero : raises $0.14 to $0.20
Ulysse9: folds
wenkman79: folds
*patience*15: folds
CptTomMantel: raises $3.20 to $3.40 and is all-in
Hero : calls $3.20

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $6.83)

   QsKc5h

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6.83)

   QsKc5h3s

River (Pot : $6.83)

   QsKc5h3s9d

Showdown
CptTomMantel: shows AcAd (a pair of Aces)
Hero : shows KdKh (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero collected $6.53 from pot

Summary
Total pot $6.83 | Rake $0.30
Board  QsKc5h3s9d
Seat 1: Hero showed KdKh and won ($6.53) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: Ulysse9 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wenkman79 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: *patience*15 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ibuzi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rozil folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pmkalltheway folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sunny4603 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: CptTomMantel showed AcAd and lost with a pair of Aces


Submitted by : genjix

PokerStars Game #22235279353: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/11/21 12:47:48 ET
Table 'Canopus' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Bwatercougar ($2.82 in chips)
Seat 2: JSK88 ($5.83 in chips)
Seat 3: Ridgeline77 ($3 in chips)
Seat 4: Shitler_cash ($5.73 in chips)
Seat 5: stary ptak ($2.63 in chips)
Seat 6: Goemba ($2.22 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($5.69 in chips)
Seat 9: hark0216 ($2.10 in chips)
dachidach will be allowed to play after the button
Hero : posts small blind $0.01
hark0216: posts big blind $0.02
Ridgeline77: posts big blind $0.02

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KdKs
Bwatercougar: raises $0.18 to $0.20
JSK88: folds
Ridgeline77: folds
JSK88 leaves the table
Shitler_cash: folds
stary ptak: folds
Goemba: calls $0.20
Hero : raises $0.85 to $1.05
Charlingals joins the table at seat #2
hark0216: raises $1.05 to $2.10 and is all-in
Bwatercougar: folds
Goemba: folds
Hero : calls $1.05

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.62)

   2hTd5h

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $4.62)

   2hTd5h5c

River (Pot : $4.62)

   2hTd5h5c3h

Showdown
Hero : shows KdKs (two pair, Kings and Fives)
hark0216: shows AdAc (two pair, Aces and Fives)
hark0216 collected $4.42 from pot

Summary
Total pot $4.62 | Rake $0.20
Board  2hTd5h5c3h
Seat 1: Bwatercougar folded before Flop
Seat 2: JSK88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ridgeline77 folded before Flop
Seat 4: Shitler_cash folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: stary ptak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Goemba (button) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Hero (small blind) showed KdKs and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 9: hark0216 (big blind) showed AdAc and won ($4.42) with two pair, Aces and Fives


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fenner   Australia. Nov 21 2008 21:56. Posts 2188

These are fine as played


hawking   United States. Nov 21 2008 23:44. Posts 348

Well in hand #1 you definitely got screwed because he clearly waved his aces in the air with the quadruple min3betting, but yes it would be a huge leak to be folding heads up with KK preflop ever. You will make these losses back the next time they have AJo and QQ, plus you still have about 25% chance to win KK vs AA anyway so these rarities arent that bad.

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