NL400 AKs 4 bet... FLAT CALLED WAT!?!

Submitted by : JonnyCosMo

PokerStars Game #22216903754: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/11/20 18:55:52 ET
Table 'Arago V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: JonnyCosMo ($547 in chips)
Seat 4: TaiwanStyle ($512.80 in chips)
Seat 5: doi2con ($81.60 in chips)
Seat 6: nanonoko ($418.70 in chips)
Hyi_Vam was removed from the table for failing to post
JonnyCosMo : posts small blind $2
TaiwanStyle: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to JonnyCosMo
doi2con: folds
nanonoko: folds
JonnyCosMo : raises $8 to $12
TaiwanStyle: raises $28 to $40
JonnyCosMo : raises $68 to $108
TaiwanStyle: calls $68

Flop (Pot : $216.00)

   
JonnyCosMo :

+1

I`d check fold. I think that his calling range here is :
1. AA/KK - in this case we have to check/fold our AK
2. JJ/QQ - if we decide to bet here , I think that we have to fire the turn also and hope that he`ll fold.
3.bluffs - if there is any chance that he is calling your 4bet with intention to bluff the flop , this is very good flop for him.

Considering these 3 things , I think that check/fold is the best option here.

On November 20 2008 22:24 TimDawg wrote: ez c/f

I think check fold is bad,he prob will fold air even if we C-bet small knowing we want him to spazz-out over the small C-bet.

$68 b/f inimproved imo.

Just make sure you mix up your play in simalair spots when you actually have it ldo

It's taiwanstyle. Hes got pos. and u reraised his $40 raise only 68 more from OOP with 125+ BBs to cover. I do the same thing here with any two reraisable cards if I'm Taiwan because I know if u do have AK your flop line is impossible. He's definitely able to float anything on you and position fuck you. I promise you hes not as huge as these guys are saying. He's smart enough to ship all major hands JJ AK+. I am pretty sure his range is 22-TT 9Ts++. If I were to make a small reraise on him like this and he flatted, im cbetting strong on the flop no matter what. I'm not gonna give anything up to a guy as aggro and sharp as taiwan. I think you might want to consider changing your OOP preflop line with AK, esp. in blinds with taiwanstyle or anyone that plays the role (nano, alotofaction, gergong, kalamitis, sweet.kr).

im with babygrand
i4bet bigger for sure

i like pf amount, i probably bet call here.

opps didnt see you guys are 125bb deep. def bigger pf raise, i like 136$.

as played i probably c/shove > c/f

im guessing his range is 99+/aq/suited connectors.

if u don't wanna c/f then u can c/c a small bet and c/r over a big one. i don't really like betting.