NL400 - really want to fold AA

Villain is a regular. Family pot...my nit side puts him squarely on flopped set and is ordering me to fold. Anyone disagree? Also, what about my turn play? Who likes bet/fold on turn? Or bet turn, check-fold river? Any thoughts on what to do after the flop are appreciated?

Submitted by : phexac

PokerStars Game #21115528236: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/10/11 17:51:37 ET
Table 'Wingolfia III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: k345 ($396.95 in chips)
Seat 2: mdom ($834.80 in chips)
Seat 3: n1stunna77 ($380 in chips)
Seat 4: nslovano ($257.95 in chips)
Seat 5: nanonoko ($451.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($398 in chips)
n1stunna77: posts small blind $2
nslovano: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
nanonoko: folds
nanonoko is sitting out
Hero : raises $10 to $14
k345: calls $14
mdom: calls $14
n1stunna77: calls $12
nslovano: calls $10

Flop (Pot : $70.00)

   
n1stunna77: checks
nslovano: checks
Hero : bets $52
k345: calls $52
mdom: folds
n1stunna77: folds
nslovano: folds

Turn (Pot : $174.00)

   
Hero : checks
nanonoko has returned
k345: bets $128
Hero : calls $128

River (Pot : $430.00)

   
Hero : checks
k345: bets $202.95 and is all-in
Hero :

there's like no hands he's playing like this unless he's crazy enough to do this /w T8/86/56
as well as his monsters. but the fact is villain has a pretty strong flop calling range in this spot don't you think? and he'd think the same for you and wouldn't expect you to fold the top of your range. which is the case here as you have AA ;o.
but if this is the case i don't mind a check/fold on river. but something inside me tells me that calling turn then c/f riving /w these stacks is really bad.

maybe i'm just high ; /

I like bet/folding or bet/calling turn (depending on what I know about the opponent) much more than the line you took.

easy rilver call

On October 11 2008 19:31 Pulda wrote: I like bet/folding or bet/calling turn (depending on what I know about the opponent) much more than the line you took.

if hes a reg then 7x isnt really in his range esp since you are repping TT+ when you c-bet in a 5 way pot and there are 3 players behind him after he calls, this is like 99/44 more than 50% of the time IMO. I think you can find a fold on the turn vs some guys, esp against 6+ tabling tightish regs

since you didnt provide any information (at all) you should call

wow Tom I'm really surprised lol

You look super strong. Regs check back showdown value hands like T9 here all day. I think this is a fold on the turn given that it's the worse card for him to bluff at.

Like T8 is the only hand he can have that plays this way.

snapcall on river,
should shove turn

I don't like aa vs 4 oponents.
I'll check the flop or bet less 35-40
as played def call riv,he;s not beting so big on the turn with boat,and if he's not totaly retardet he's not caling your cbet 5way with 7
call riv

reason for calling here is not so much because he can be bluffing, but value owning himself with worse ex. TT-KK he flats your UTG+1 open from the CO, he can have a wide value range (maybe), and more importantly your getting 3:1. AA should be good here way over 25% of the time

as tom said this is NEVER ever a bluff even 67 takes the showdown on that river, but he can be vbetting with worse.

On October 12 2008 00:38 Baal wrote: as tom said this is NEVER ever a bluff even 67 takes the showdown on that river, but he can be vbetting with worse.

67 checks back the full house, standard

On October 12 2008 00:38 Baal wrote: as tom said this is NEVER ever a bluff even 67 takes the showdown on that river, but he can be vbetting with worse.

first post back from ban..

wat?

lol i meant 56o obv

As far as information goes, I think villain would 3bet KK/QQ PF almost all the time, so we will rarely see those hands show up value betting river. If that takes away tom's argument that he is value-betting worse, this looks like a fold as played.

I'm kind of a bigger fan of check raising all in on the turn if we going to call river anyways

On October 12 2008 15:22 JonnyCosMo wrote: I'm kind of a bigger fan of check raising all in on the turn if we going to call river anyways

yeah I was gonna say this, but hes asking for river play (which there basically is none IMO)
shoving turn is just so standard here if you wanna continue with the hand

dont tens and jacks check back this river?