Do you believe in God?

You know I hear this same line all the time "humans are way too complex to have just happened by coincidence". Are we really though? Exactly what intelligent design has been put into our physical bodies? We have a patch of random hair on our head, a couple of smaller random patches on our chest, armpits. Our legs are ridiculously over-hairy compared to our arms or back. Pound for pound we are very weak compared to other animals. We have absolutely zero defenses against attacks.

Now look at our internal structure. We have what would seem to be a complex delivery system for nutrients and supply. Our bodies are wrapped in veins and other circulatory channels, but it is in complete disarray. We have multiple upon multiple redundant paths, none of them take the most efficient route, they wrap and intertwine around themselves like a spaghetti soup. They are all different sizes and widths, total inconsistency.

A ferrari is intelligent design. An F-22 fighter jet is intelligent design. A human with intelligent design should have like fucking lasers coming out of our eyes. Why dont I have that shit? I should have fuckin claws that shoot out of my finger tips for climbing trees. I should be able to run 100mph to escape predators. See in the dark 500x better. Smell shit from a mile away. Have super hearing. Be able to breathe under water.

If anything, humans are one of the worst fucking designs i have ever seen.

On October 11 2008 04:34 Zorglub wrote: btw. off topic sorr but is weed easy to get in the philliphines, and how severe is the penalty if you get caught?

yes.. but the stuff you get is crap... the good stuff is hard to get... you get a life sentence if they catch you with like half a kilo of weed on you, but who walks around carrying that much except for the dealers. and the narcs here don't really care much if it's just weed... they are more concerned about the increase in the use of crystal-meth so they catch those guys.

On October 11 2008 03:36 tokeweed wrote: the fact that when someone asks the question "do you believe in God?" and a lot of people answer yes or no already confirms that there is a God for those people, even if they said "NO i am an aethiest blah blah blah..." cos if you truly believe there is no God you wouldn't even give a fuck about the stupid question anyway. you'd just be happy and content and even wanting to just sit down and watch the world burn.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

If somebody asks you if u believe in ghosts and you say "NO" you are implying you believe in them too right?

lol wtf.

didnt read any posts

but yes god exists, its science

and no i dont have the math to prove it aussiefagsquad

On October 10 2008 13:42 MezmerizePLZ wrote: free will doesn't exist

QFT

if you create something, and it behaves badly, its your fucking fault for creating it that way lol

On October 11 2008 15:10 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2008 13:42 MezmerizePLZ wrote: free will doesn't exist QFT if you create something, and it behaves badly, its your fucking fault for creating it that way lol

Its gods fault u dont get laid obv

On October 11 2008 15:18 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 15:10 Floofy wrote:   On October 10 2008 13:42 MezmerizePLZ wrote: free will doesn't exist QFT if you create something, and it behaves badly, its your fucking fault for creating it that way lol Its gods fault u dont get laid obv

Yeah and the only way you can get revenge is by not believing in him, that will hurt his feelings or you could take the safer route and become a muslim and secure yourself 72 virgins, that way you at least get to have sex at some point

On October 11 2008 10:40 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2008 18:51 Jelle wrote:   On October 09 2008 18:10 SfydjkLm wrote: i believe in God god, but i really think one way or another it is rather foolish to not believe in intelligent design in some shape or form. Seems to me like the things are way too together and not random and in line with humane way of thinking to really be just a random occurrence. it's natural to feel this way but this argument has been countered so thoroughly you should watch some richard dawkins stuff he's a really classy guy fun to watch and I think it'll interest you or maybe even change your opinion Well i just stated my opinion, under no circumstance will i argue about something that cant be ever proven.

"proving" something is merely assigning it 100% probability, but that number 100 isn't really all that magical

if something is 95% probable to be true then it can be helpful to know that - more helpful than saying "i can't prove that it's 100% probable, so I'll avoid thinking about it alltogether"

nobody can ever prove to you that there isn't a God, that's true, but from your first post it sounds like you think it's very likely that there is one. You even said it was rather foolish not to believe in some kind of intelligent design.

so why not discuss it? it couldn't possibly hurt you right?

On October 11 2008 12:05 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2008 03:36 tokeweed wrote: the fact that when someone asks the question "do you believe in God?" and a lot of people answer yes or no already confirms that there is a God for those people, even if they said "NO i am an aethiest blah blah blah..." cos if you truly believe there is no God you wouldn't even give a fuck about the stupid question anyway. you'd just be happy and content and even wanting to just sit down and watch the world burn. LOLOLOLOLOL. If somebody asks you if u believe in ghosts and you say "NO" you are implying you believe in them too right? lol wtf.

no i wouldn't even give a fuck about that stupid question. i'd just be happy and content and even wanting to just sit down and watch the world burn.

plz stop quoting the dark knight

On October 11 2008 17:07 hawking wrote: plz stop quoting the dark knight

please stop acting like a tight stuck up bitch

Less dark knight, more religious debate. Make it happen, someone with strong views make a claim GO!

God exists any way we define him to exist. To me, God is that which I cannot control. Typically, that which I cannot control fucks me over.

So I hate God.
I wish I could kill God

Mary is only a virgin because anal doesnt count!!!

discuss

On October 10 2008 19:55 SakiSaki wrote: Oh and I havent read even half of this thread but all I can say, as a for many years rabid atheist, that I think it is pretty arrogant to completely disregard the idea of the existence of God. I still dont really believe in god, but fuck man, we really dont know anything so what makes us so sure an omnipotent being/force/whatever doesnt exist?

we're not "sure" we just suspect really really strongly that he doesn't exist

i think it's weird especially for a poker player to be so concerned with something that's so close to impossible

to me it's like saying "omg what if i get dealt 72o every single hand for the rest of my life? i'll be in deep shit when that happens!" yeah it COULD happen in theory but seriously play a hand it wont

also there may be no proof but the arguments that say its astronomically unlikely are very strong

is it according to you also arrogant to claim that storm troopers and wookies (chewbacca) don't exist? we can't prove that they don't

the whole spaggetti monster thing, you cant disprove the existance of the monster, it doesnt make it any less real.

On October 11 2008 20:31 Jelle wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2008 19:55 SakiSaki wrote: Oh and I havent read even half of this thread but all I can say, as a for many years rabid atheist, that I think it is pretty arrogant to completely disregard the idea of the existence of God. I still dont really believe in god, but fuck man, we really dont know anything so what makes us so sure an omnipotent being/force/whatever doesnt exist? we're not "sure" we just suspect really really strongly that he doesn't exist i think it's weird especially for a poker player to be so concerned with something that's so close to impossible to me it's like saying "omg what if i get dealt 72o every single hand for the rest of my life? i'll be in deep shit when that happens!" yeah it COULD happen in theory but seriously play a hand it wont also there may be no proof but the arguments that say its astronomically unlikely are very strong is it according to you also arrogant to claim that storm troopers and wookies (chewbacca) don't exist? we can't prove that they don't

Saki on that post almost makes it look like the world is filled with raging atheists busting religious peoples' balls when in fact the opposite is clearly the case,sadly.

On October 11 2008 20:07 Roald wrote: God exists any way we define him to exist. To me, God is that which I cannot control. Typically, that which I cannot control fucks me over. So I hate God. I wish I could kill God

nice honest thought. now make your peace with me my son...

hmmmmm, evolution and big bang theory vs SOME DUDE WITH MAGIC FINGERS SHITTING LIFE