NL25 AKo 3bet pot

Submitted by : fakk

PokerStars Game #21027614687: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/10/08 12:23:18 ET
Table 'Gryphia IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: florinel26 ($62.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Alice Ivers ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 3: dannylwd ($35.80 in chips)
Seat 4: loco choco23 ($20.70 in chips)
Seat 5: WallyWorld3G ($11.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($25.35 in chips)
Hero : posts small blind $0.10
florinel26: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Alice Ivers: raises $0.50 to $0.75
dannylwd: folds
loco choco23: folds
WallyWorld3G: calls $0.75
Hero : raises $2.25 to $3
florinel26: folds
Alice Ivers: calls $2.25
WallyWorld3G: calls $2.25

Flop (Pot : $9.25)

   
Hero : bets $6.80
Alice Ivers: calls $6.80
WallyWorld3G: folds

Turn (Pot : $22.85)

   
Hero :

I think it's fine on this board. You have the Ah so he can't have the NFD, and therefore he probably doesn't have any FD most of the time. A cbet should get 88 99 and JJ and any other PPs to fold, and even though TT QQ KK AA and maybe an AQs hand will still call you, he doesn't flat preflop with all of these hands 100% of the time, and therefore a cbet would get a good portion of his range to fold the flop. Also, a huge portion of his calling range is just one pair, so you can probably get him to fold on a scare card on the turn if he just flatcalls (like what happened here). Now if you double barrel and he decides to flat again you have a decent amount of outs for the river. I doubt he would have a set on the flop though as played because I would suspect he would have raised on a board like this one with them, and he probably flatted one pair on the flop to "slowplay" for a safe turncard or to reeval or something, and now you can get him off of it.

Even though the Th was probably the worst draw completing card to come off on the turn for you to bluff at because it makes a set a lot less likely for you, I would still go with a barrel here because a set of tens was a small portion of your range on the flop anyway.

Joe, did you also notice and take in account it was a 3way pot?
And thanks for the answer.

shove turn, bet flop higher

On October 08 2008 15:00 gymnast wrote: shove turn, bet flop higher

it was actually 6.8 into 8.8 pot, but LP counts rake in the pot.

On October 08 2008 12:48 fakk wrote: Joe, did you also notice and take in account it was a 3way pot? And thanks for the answer.

Hmmmm, no I didn't lol. I barely even read the HH tbh hehe XD. I'm not too sure if it being a 3way pot chances much tbh, because I'm sure their ranges are kind of similar here, so if the first guy folds then what I said above can for the most part apply to the second one like it was a HU pot. If the first guy calls then the second one will probably raise or fold anyway so it doesn't matter for you, because you will just fold.

On October 08 2008 15:10 fakk wrote: it was actually 6.8 into 8.8 pot, but LP counts rake in the pot.

ok then its fine, still shove turn

On October 08 2008 17:02 JoeDeertay wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2008 12:48 fakk wrote: Joe, did you also notice and take in account it was a 3way pot? And thanks for the answer. I'm not too sure if it being a 3way pot chances much tbh

Well, it increases the chances of me being beat by 2x and should theoretically lower my cbet frequency the same amount, no?

Id 3bet a little more pre. c-betting looks good with this flop and you having the Ah.
but I think continuing on the turn is big spew. your opponent has to be aware that you were c-betting a 3way pot / therefore his range is pretty tight and gets even stronger on the turn, still many flushdraws out there. AQ/KQ doesnt fold like ever as well and if he's stupid enough to call with a T, he now got another one. you can only make hands fold that you beat anyway (like AK(chop) AJ KJ) and lower pocket pairs but I think those don't call that flop much (except JJ).

agree with tally, this turn seems too bad to continue on.

On October 09 2008 07:03 fakk wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2008 17:02 JoeDeertay wrote:   On October 08 2008 12:48 fakk wrote: Joe, did you also notice and take in account it was a 3way pot? And thanks for the answer. I'm not too sure if it being a 3way pot chances much tbh Well, it increases the chances of me being beat by 2x and should theoretically lower my cbet frequency the same amount, no?

With this logic it would also mean that you get a fold on a cbet twice as often, too. =]