[50NL] Flopped 3rd nut straight multiway. Misplay?

Submitted by : studmufflynn

Full Tilt Poker Game #8380207240: Table Florentine - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:08:55 ET - 2008/10/06
Seat 1: Hero ($47.45)
Seat 2: bruddah99502 ($26.70)
Seat 3: DeezCacklings ($50)
Seat 4: AZRealtor ($41.40)
Seat 5: TheEdge U2JT ($35.15)
Seat 6: JohnPB50 ($20.65)
Seat 7: DasWisse ($6.20)
Seat 8: slapnuts-101 ($19.25)
Seat 9: Wild Jake ($69.95)
AZRealtor posts the small blind of $0.25
TheEdge U2JT posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
JohnPB50 calls $0.50
DasWisse folds
slapnuts-101 has 15 seconds left to act
slapnuts-101 raises to $1
Wild Jake calls $1
Hero calls $1
bruddah99502 folds
DeezCacklings calls $1
AZRealtor calls $0.75
TheEdge U2JT calls $0.50
JohnPB50 calls $0.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $7.00)

   
AZRealtor checks
TheEdge U2JT checks
JohnPB50 bets $7
slapnuts-101 has 15 seconds left to act
slapnuts-101 has been disconnected
slapnuts-101 has 90 seconds to reconnect
slapnuts-101 has reconnected
slapnuts-101 has 15 seconds left to act
slapnuts-101 folds
Wild Jake folds
Hero raises to $21
DeezCacklings adds $1
DeezCacklings folds
AZRealtor folds
TheEdge U2JT folds
JohnPB50 calls $12.65, and is all in
Hero shows
JohnPB50 shows
Uncalled bet of $1.35 returned to Hero

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $46.30)

   

River (Pot : $46.30)

   
Hero shows a straight, Ten high
JohnPB50 shows a straight, Queen high
JohnPB50 wins the pot ($44) with a straight, Queen high
Hero : gh

weird spot but if you aren't considering a fold then i prefer raising

Is that really a good idea to keep going when you see 3 diamonds on the flop and you have spades?

I like it when people make a note that they play stakes lower than the hand they are commenting on

sorry I have no advice for you except I think this is fine atleast against a shortstack..

I play nl25 tho

I was mostly asking :V

^_^

imo, really big spew to stack off in a limped pot (well, minraised, but same shit) with the 2nd nut straight, esp on a monotone board
you can't even draw to the nuts, and JQ has you beat, and there's a chance that people may have flopped flushes

1. Play 6max
2. 3bet the minraiser
3. Profit!

I play nl4 6max and I am proud of it!

easy fold on flop if you don't know he is a huuge donkey

I might be alone here but I really don't mind stacking off against a shortstack who will be firing with everything from Jx, Tx, and Adx, and is calling the raise with all of that too. If this is deeper then I try for a cheap showdown.

it's not that you're alone in sticking it in against a shortstack. it's more a question of all the people behind you

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On October 07 2008 19:27 devon06atX wrote:

rofl

On October 07 2008 01:46 HighTimes wrote: 1. Play 6max 2. 3bet the minraiser 3. Profit! I play nl4 6max and I am proud of it!

awesome man hi five

back to the hand, generally i don't think this is good to do

this is always fine vs a short stack

if u guys had full stacks fuck no

oh this is full ring lol. well in 6 max ill always shove this brd vs a shortstack

wtf just because he is a shortstack doesn't mean he has to be retarded about what hands he stacks off with postflop, esp in a FR game. I definitely don't think this is a good spot to be stacking off, because jamming the pot will only fold out hands that you beat other than maybe sets, and they don't make up enough of the villains' overall ranges to justify it. All raising does is try to bluff the people behind you out of the pot so you can get HU with a SS that will probably end up showing up with a range that is ahead of your hand anyway. I definitely do not like a raise here, and I would want to see what the other people behind me do first, and maybe see what happens on a safe turn. Even then being OOP on this board makes the hand very hard to play even if the turn IS a safe card. The spot you are in sucks but I can never find a raise here...probably a flatcall most of the time and reeval turn.