AJo late stage 8 dollar R buy

Feelt like i played this very bad please comment on every street and maybe i should fold PF ?

Submitted by : Liquid_GoLD

PokerStars Game #20844420375: Tournament #110965187, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2008/10/01 14:34:54 ET
Table '110965187 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ndenwhat (131516 in chips)
Seat 2: ABC_Winner (101760 in chips)
Seat 3: gemilly (27546 in chips)
Seat 4: odeodet (46397 in chips)
Seat 5: kezzadakizza (89721 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero (144071 in chips)
Seat 7: Genie_007 (62054 in chips)
Seat 8: stieba (218767 in chips)
Seat 9: luisfran (101662 in chips)
ndenwhat: posts the ante 400
ABC_Winner: posts the ante 400
gemilly: posts the ante 400
odeodet: posts the ante 400
kezzadakizza: posts the ante 400
Hero : posts the ante 400
Genie_007: posts the ante 400
stieba: posts the ante 400
luisfran: posts the ante 400
ABC_Winner: posts small blind 2000
gemilly: posts big blind 4000

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
odeodet: folds
kezzadakizza: raises 8000 to 12000
Hero : calls 12000
Genie_007: folds
stieba: folds
luisfran: folds
ndenwhat: folds
ABC_Winner: folds
gemilly: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $33,600.00)

   
kezzadakizza: bets 16000
Hero : calls 16000

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $65,600.00)

   
kezzadakizza: bets 20000
Hero : calls 20000

River (Pot : $105,600.00)

   
kezzadakizza: checks
Hero : bets 95671 and is all-in
kezzadakizza: calls 41321 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (54350) returned to Hero

Showdown
Hero : shows (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
kezzadakizza: shows (three of a kind, Queens)
Hero said, "sure"
kezzadakizza collected 188242 from pot

Summary
Total pot 188242 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 1: ndenwhat (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ABC_Winner (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: gemilly (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: odeodet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kezzadakizza showed and won (188242) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: Hero showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 7: Genie_007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: stieba folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: luisfran folded before Flop (didn't bet)

fold pf or repop him if hes opening wide,flatting AJ will get you in so much shitty spots.

id fold pf

i also fold pf against most.

i fold preflop 95% of the time

i fold preflop 94.718% of the time vs some opponents and 99% against most opponents and 15% of the time against all of my opponents

good spot to shove on him PF since he has ~20bb and could be opening light. Standard is to fold though.

RR-or-fold preflop. Flatting is definitely the worst (and most expensive) option in the long run in spots like this.

On October 10 2008 11:06 JoeDeertay wrote: RR-or-fold preflop. Flatting is definitely the worst (and most expensive) option in the long run in spots like this.

Reraising the the most expensive b/c it's auto call/shove for QQ.

with the way it's played Reraise flop... he'll go over the top if he has an A. He bet out to find out if you had an A and flatting here allowed him to find his Q...

i repop this pf

and fwiw regardless of whether i would call/fold/raise pf, when you do see this flop, i think you gotta get it in. i am not letting him draw to a flush or anything else. 16 + plus existing pot makes it a shove imo. anything that is going to get it in with you on a later street would probably put it in at that point as well, alot of times behind (he had 89 to start, putting in 12k pf and 16k on flop; he is committed. after his flop bet he has ~61k behind into a pot of 49k before you even call or raise. if he has a drawing hand or a pair he has bet for value (and in the hopes you dont have an ace) calling allows him to play perfectly against you on the turn and river. if he hits his draw you are getting it in crushed. where as if he misses or has a holding that has become obviously too weak, he can check/fold to you saving his remaining stack. if he is betting out a hand that has you beat, AK AQ 55 44 A5 A4 (I assume he doesnt open 45 pf) your intention was to get it in, anyway, right? It might also be plausible for him to C/R AK AQ 55 44. So I think shove the flop.

Without any reads on your opponent, it's tough to say what he's open-raising with in early position. 95% of the time I'm folding preflop here, as YOU want to be the aggressor with AJ, and in better position would be nice as well.

Now that you called though, you got a perfect flop for your hand. I think the flat call was a bad choice as it shows you are nervous about your kicker with the ace flopping. That's the thing with AJ (trap hands) it's VERY tough to know when you are ahead. You did, however, end up calling and need to raise his flop bet here - an all-in would be the best if you're going to continue with this hand this way. Flat calling is leaving you vulnerable to a flush draw, showing weakness, hitting the set (very rarely happens, but in this case it did)....With flat calling his raise preflop it would look like A-K, A-Q so you probably take it down with a raise on the flop.

The river check and shove by you is good - checking behind would be OK I guess too as they're aren't very many hands you can beat, KK or mid pocket pairs (the way the hand was played, of course I still think folding preflop is the best way to go).