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Muhweli   Finland. Sep 28 2008 04:51. Posts 9665 | | |
You gotta learn to push that kinda edges to make a profit. |
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rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Sep 28 2008 08:48. Posts 732 | | |
| | On September 28 2008 01:16 Heath_at_Uk1 wrote:
Ok me and a friend had an argument while playing some live poker the other day, I can't remember exactly how the argument started but basically I was arguing with him that k2o was a favorite against any random 2 more than 50% of the time. Am I right? |
these pokerstove calcs arent exactly what you stated in your question though. you asked if K2o was a favorite against more than 50% of hands which is different from being more than a 50% favorite vs a range. i assume the answer is the same but maybe not! |
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rockman255   Canada. Sep 28 2008 09:04. Posts 1626 | | |
thats really interesting or maybe im really dumb. but you could probably write a lemma about being able to select a certain number of hands with a certain advantage when given a percentage about a range by pokerstove?
or maybe im really dumb |
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Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Sep 28 2008 09:10. Posts 669 | | |
K2o favourite against bottom 66.4% of hands (all nonpairs with Qhigh or worse) but very marginally in lot of cases
losing to all the remaining hands(all aces, all kings, all pairs) 33.6%
so under this criteria its doing a bit better than equity vs random
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JoeDeertay   United States. Sep 29 2008 08:53. Posts 1262 | | |
Q7o is apparently exactly even money against a range of random hands (aka "computer hand" .
K2o > Q7o imo
And I assume you just meant that K2 is a favorite against random cards, although the wording in the OP was a little strange. |
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JoeDeertay   United States. Sep 30 2008 12:13. Posts 1262 | | |
I have it but I just didn't verify. Someone told me that in a live game once and I just googled "computer hand" and Q7o actually came up, so I believed it. Now I'm curious as to what the "computer hand" really is... O_o |
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DooMeR   United States. Sep 30 2008 12:45. Posts 6260 | | |
J7s is the middle if im not mistaken, that or J9s |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Sep 30 2008 13:04. Posts 8191 | | |
I think Q7o is in the middle its just that pokerstove excludes a bunch of Qx and 7x combos. Depends on how you see it I guess. |
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thewh00sel   United States. Sep 30 2008 13:19. Posts 1181 | | |
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.831% 47.76% 02.07% 4007516560 173445692.00 { random }
Hand 1: 50.169% 48.10% 02.07% 4035881656 173445692.00 { Q2s }
is as close as i could get to an exactly even money hand vs random |
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CruiseR   Poland. Sep 30 2008 14:36. Posts 126 | | |
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.120% 47.96% 02.16% 12071696952 543963330.00 { Q5o }
Hand 1: 49.880% 47.72% 02.16% 12011245188 543963330.00 { random }
EDIT: Beat THIS:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.987% 47.82% 02.17% 4012315744 181725692.00 { J5s }
Hand 1: 50.013% 47.85% 02.17% 4014522472 181725692.00 { random } |
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sawseech   Canada. Sep 30 2008 15:11. Posts 1763 | | | |
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eightfourO   United States. Sep 30 2008 17:56. Posts 808 | | |
How come in the calculator 44 is favored over AKs but 22 is not??
it's the exact same... |
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eightfourO   United States. Sep 30 2008 17:56. Posts 808 | | |
| | On September 28 2008 02:01 Feiticeira wrote:
that's a pretty liberal use of the word 'favourite' |
pretty sure he said "favorite".
| | On September 28 2008 01:16 Heath_at_Uk1 wrote:
favorite |
yep, i was right. |
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locoo   Peru. Sep 30 2008 18:47. Posts 2611 | | |
| | On September 30 2008 17:56 eightfourO wrote:
How come in the calculator 44 is favored over AKs but 22 is not??
it's the exact same... |
22 can get counterfeited by 3344x board while 44 cannot, it actually makes it quads! |
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Yugless   United States. Sep 30 2008 19:01. Posts 7174 | | |
haha locoo
you can also makes more straates with 44 |
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Yugless   United States. Sep 30 2008 19:03. Posts 7174 | | |
| | On September 30 2008 13:04 SakiSaki wrote:
I think Q7o is in the middle its just that pokerstove excludes a bunch of Qx and 7x combos. Depends on how you see it I guess. |
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
2,097,572,400 games 0.001 secs 2,097,572,400,000 games/sec
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.766% 49.90% 01.86% 1046780178 39042143.50 { Qd7h }
Hand 1: 48.234% 46.37% 01.86% 972707935 39042143.50 { random }
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Yugless   United States. Sep 30 2008 19:07. Posts 7174 | | |
i guess maybe i misunderstood what you were saying, idk |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Sep 30 2008 19:43. Posts 9938 | | |
| | On September 30 2008 19:01 Yugless wrote:
haha locoo
you can also makes more straates with 44 |
yes 44 makes a lot of straates, AK flops a lot of Rekrul |
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Show nested quote +
On September 30 2008 17:56 eightfourO wrote:
How come in the calculator 44 is favored over AKs but 22 is not??
it's the exact same... |
22 can get counterfeited by 3344x board while 44 cannot, it actually makes it quads!
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i loled
thx for the laught locoo^^ |
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