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Hi guys, I dont know where to start, but I feel Im gonna need some kind of a stake some time (next year maybe). Im planning to move my bankroll to investments, loans, stocks and a project with a software (cant talk about this right now ). I know that the transitions from Poker to investments are not done in a few days, but I want to be prepared for it in the future. I want to know how being staked works and establish confidence with a player who wants to stake me for a reasonable game. Or better yet I want to be recognized as a good horse in a known comunity to open up my posibilities.
My ideas are tournaments becouse are easy to verify results and you can send $T, but if you know a good cash game stake plan let me know.
Here's some of my profile actually if you're interested:
games played: PLO400 6m, NL400 6m, NL100 and PLO100 HU, $50 tournaments (I played bigger but only as shots)
performance: ~4/100 for PLO 6m (without table selection) and ~3/100 for NLHE 6m (with table and seat selection)
sites I can play: Empire Poker, Stars, FT (like stars the most)
Poker profits: ~40K (my online bankroll is like 27K due to cashouts, and decreasing)
Years playing: Since December 2005 from freerolls
Dedication: average 20 days a month, 2-4 hs 4-6 tabling (up to 9 if Im inspired)
Education: 6 months CR member, 2 years lp member, and obv experience, books and articles
Any suggestions, offers or comments post them here or PM me
Thanks
-Mauro J.
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Sep 24 2008 13:27. Posts 5882 | | |
You ask for a tourney stake but yet you don't post your ROI or results. |
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anon   Lithuania. Sep 24 2008 14:01. Posts 5965 | | |
Just leave yourself 1K in br and grind it from here =/ |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Sep 24 2008 14:06. Posts 9687 | | | |
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Fox   . Sep 24 2008 14:46. Posts 3110 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 13:06 SakiSaki wrote:
HOW CAN SHE SLAP!? |
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| | On September 24 2008 13:01 anon wrote:
Just leave yourself 1K in br and grind it from here =/ |
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Syntax   United States. Sep 24 2008 15:17. Posts 4415 | | |
why would you ever choose to get a stake
what ever happened to just getting good at poker... |
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Joe   Czech Republic. Sep 24 2008 15:18. Posts 5987 | | |
You should consider leaving urself with some bankroll as an investment as well.
Unless you want the stake for other reasons like you dont feel comfortable playing for your own money or whatever I dunno, you definately shouldnt want to be staked especially if you are a proven winning player at NL 2/4 like you said. |
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sOah   United Kingdom. Sep 24 2008 15:19. Posts 4527 | | |
40k total poker profit and proven winning 2/4 player? does not compute |
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Roald   Tuvalu. Sep 24 2008 15:37. Posts 2683 | | |
So many of you have made money off the LP pyramid scheme, Shirley one of you can afford to buy me a steak
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sOah   United Kingdom. Sep 24 2008 15:55. Posts 4527 | | |
that looks delicious
full-houses are delicious
I like steak
double the blinds? .. yea.. table stakes. Feel free to reload at any time. |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Sep 24 2008 17:05. Posts 12159 | | |
vital-myth@hotmail.com msn
BehindEveryLine aim
i'm interested |
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Bejamin1   Canada. Sep 24 2008 17:13. Posts 7042 | | |
No offense but this kind of just sounds like you want to have your stake and eat it too. If you really need to remove all your money from poker in order to proceed with these investments then what you're really asking for is a loan.
Edit: This of course doesn't mean that you can't set up a stake in which you will make yourself and your backer profit while having enough capital to do your investments at the same time. This relationship could work but I would think it would be appropriate given your circumstances to arrange for some sort of re-payment of the stake in the unlikely event that you lose the staking money. Up to 50% or so.
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Robinson47   United Kingdom. Sep 24 2008 18:54. Posts 992 | | |
stakes dont work! i stakes zhan 200 dollars a couple of months ago
not heard from him since
blatent scammer
can one of the moderators ban him please tyvm |
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Robinson47   United Kingdom. Sep 24 2008 18:55. Posts 992 | | |
ps i am in no way insinuating this guy is a scammer
but please ban zhan so he cant scam any1 else |
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nabz   Canada. Sep 24 2008 19:17. Posts 420 | | |
if you are a winning poker player its probably the best investment you can make with 25 - 30k |
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| | On September 24 2008 14:18 Joe wrote:
You should consider leaving urself with some bankroll as an investment as well.
Unless you want the stake for other reasons like you dont feel comfortable playing for your own money or whatever I dunno, you definately shouldnt want to be staked especially if you are a proven winning player at NL 2/4 like you said. |
Yes, I considered about using only half for investments, but I want to see how a different thing works, make some calculations and reevaluate later. It is very likely that Im gonna play with my own money always, but I want to have more options avalaible as a backup. |
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I expect 20% monthly returns in a project with a friend and Im all in |
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that's like 900% yearly, but I think it has a ceiling at one point. From there Im rebuilding my poker bankroll |
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Zorglub   Denmark. Sep 24 2008 19:48. Posts 2870 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 18:40 Forrest Gump wrote:
that's like 900% yearly, but I think it has a ceiling at one point. From there Im rebuilding my poker bankroll |
hmm that sounds like a nice investment I wonder how safe it is |
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Jubert69   United States. Sep 24 2008 19:55. Posts 3191 | | |
I'm getting staked, money is cursed... |
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RiKD   United States. Sep 24 2008 20:07. Posts 9917 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 13:06 SakiSaki wrote:
HOW CAN SHE SLAP!? |
HOW CAN YOU SLAP YOU FUCKIN BASTERT!!! BLOODY BASTERT!!!!! I'M FUCKIN PISSED BASTERT!!!!! |
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phexac   United States. Sep 24 2008 20:25. Posts 2563 | | |
Eh...I can't really see a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll ever needing a stake since if you need your 27k to invest next year...you can make that much in a few months easily....assuming you're a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll.
Also 20% monthly != 900% annually. |
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| | On September 24 2008 19:25 phexac wrote:
Eh...I can't really see a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll ever needing a stake since if you need your 27k to invest next year...you can make that much in a few months easily....assuming you're a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll.
Also 20% monthly != 900% annually. |
(1.20)^12 = 8.916
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PoorUser   United States. Sep 24 2008 21:39. Posts 7472 | | |
Hey Guys! Anyone wanna give me a loan so I can pay my bills! Cya Later! |
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PoorUser   United States. Sep 24 2008 22:23. Posts 7472 | | |
sign your posts -rekrul damnit |
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JoeDeertay   United States. Sep 24 2008 22:23. Posts 1730 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 20:19 Forrest Gump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2008 19:25 phexac wrote:
Eh...I can't really see a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll ever needing a stake since if you need your 27k to invest next year...you can make that much in a few months easily....assuming you're a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll.
Also 20% monthly != 900% annually. |
(1.20)^12 = 8.916
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I'm pretty sure this is not even close to how compound interest works, although I can't remember off the top of my head. |
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thundza   United States. Sep 24 2008 22:36. Posts 2001 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 21:23 JoeDeertay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2008 20:19 Forrest Gump wrote:
| | On September 24 2008 19:25 phexac wrote:
Eh...I can't really see a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll ever needing a stake since if you need your 27k to invest next year...you can make that much in a few months easily....assuming you're a winning NL400 regular with 27k roll.
Also 20% monthly != 900% annually. |
(1.20)^12 = 8.916
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I'm pretty sure this is not even close to how compound interest works, although I can't remember off the top of my head. |
Continuous compound interest is PV e^(rt), so it's PV * e^(0.2 * 12) = 11.0231764 * PV.
What he showed was a monthly compounding formula, which is also perfectly valid. |
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gymnast   Mexico. Sep 24 2008 23:19. Posts 704 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 13:06 SakiSaki wrote:
HOW CAN SHE SLAP!? |
lol |
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sirracksalot   United States. Sep 25 2008 01:56. Posts 2299 | | |
honestly, steak is just simply the greatest...especially raw or medium rare...soooo fucking good |
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Sep 25 2008 02:13. Posts 7499 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 00:56 sirracksalot wrote:
honestly, steak is just simply the greatest...especially raw or medium rare...soooo fucking good |
once while at dinner when asked how she liked her steak, one of my ex girlfriends responded " make it moo. "
needless to say with such liking of raw meat, i knew she had potential. |
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PandaSaurus   Australia. Sep 25 2008 04:05. Posts 1651 | | |
20% monthly?!
Did you find oil or something? |
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phexac   United States. Sep 25 2008 04:16. Posts 2563 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 03:05 PandaSaurus wrote:
20% monthly?!
Did you find oil or something? |
He found a friend who told him he knows how to make many monies. |
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Robinson47   United Kingdom. Sep 25 2008 06:34. Posts 992 | | |
have any moderators banned zhan yet from czech republic
k thx |
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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 25 2008 08:04. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 01:13 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2008 00:56 sirracksalot wrote:
honestly, steak is just simply the greatest...especially raw or medium rare...soooo fucking good |
once while at dinner when asked how she liked her steak, one of my ex girlfriends responded " make it moo. "
needless to say with such liking of raw meat, i knew she had potential.
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i would have insta married her in the spot |
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SPEWTARD   Peru. Sep 25 2008 08:59. Posts 4307 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 05:34 Robinson47 wrote:
have any moderators banned zhan yet from czech republic
k thx |
if they ban him u wont have news of ur stake ever imo
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rogier   Netherlands. Sep 25 2008 12:29. Posts 1528 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 17:55 Robinson47 wrote:
ps i am in no way insinuating this guy is a scammer
but please ban zhan so he cant scam any1 else |
lol, this guy also asked me for a stake multiple times starting from 21th of july (zhan i mean)
banworthy imo |
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Sep 25 2008 12:37. Posts 5882 | | |
lmao same here, he added me on aim and constantly asked for money/stake to play NL2, he claimed to be a winning player. He kinda wanted to build a trust-bound with me by railing my tourneys, etc but obv I never fell for that and gave him a thing obv. So silly that you bite that Robinson. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 25 2008 12:51. Posts 34312 | | |
Username
Zhan
Status Banned
booooooom |
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sirracksalot   United States. Sep 25 2008 13:10. Posts 2299 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 01:13 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2008 00:56 sirracksalot wrote:
honestly, steak is just simply the greatest...especially raw or medium rare...soooo fucking good |
once while at dinner when asked how she liked her steak, one of my ex girlfriends responded " make it moo. "
needless to say with such liking of raw meat, i knew she had potential.
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why didnt you marry that bitch |
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locoo   Peru. Sep 25 2008 15:05. Posts 4566 | | |
| | On September 24 2008 18:38 Forrest Gump wrote:
I expect 20% monthly returns in a project with a friend and Im all in |
wow wtf kind of investment is that? if it's true then its INSTA all in, but I really really doubt its 20% monthly better check that about 10 times |
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Sicks Macks   United States. Sep 25 2008 16:35. Posts 3929 | | |
(1.20)^12=cocaine + baking soda, amirite? |
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Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Sep 25 2008 17:44. Posts 3943 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 15:35 Sicks Macks wrote:
(1.20)^12=cocaine + baking soda, amirite? |
Yes. |
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LOL, someone changed my thread name?
The investment is about exploiting a system that has an error and I can do it legaly with small risk (smaller than poker at least). Not interested to talk about this right now, but we need to develop a software and a system to exploit it well |
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matdon460   United States. Sep 25 2008 19:41. Posts 1089 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 17:00 Forrest Gump wrote:
The investment is about exploiting a system that has an error and I can do it legaly with small risk (smaller than poker at least). Not interested to talk about this right now, but we need to develop a software and a system to exploit it well |

Remember, kick someone's ass the first day or become someone's bitch. |
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phexac   United States. Sep 25 2008 21:02. Posts 2563 | | |
I want a steak too. Medium-rare. |
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Roald   Tuvalu. Sep 25 2008 21:06. Posts 2683 | | |
lol changing the spelling of this topic was the best thing I ever did. Every time I look at it I start giggling like a little girl |
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lachlan   Australia. Sep 25 2008 22:53. Posts 6991 | | | |
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Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Sep 25 2008 23:02. Posts 3943 | | |
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lol changing the spelling of this topic was the best thing I ever did. Every time I look at it I start giggling like a little girl |
lol i was 90% sure that when I saw this thread started it really was "stake".
Nicely done :D |
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rogier   Netherlands. Sep 26 2008 00:20. Posts 1528 | | |
| | On September 25 2008 17:00 Forrest Gump wrote:
LOL, someone changed my thread name?
The investment is about exploiting a system that has an error and I can do it legaly with small risk (smaller than poker at least). Not interested to talk about this right now, but we need to develop a software and a system to exploit it well |
sounds interesting but 20% monthly is too huge i think for ANYTHING, unless youre founder of something which attracts a lot of people worldwide like ebay google etc |
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