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MIStrZZZ   . Sep 24 2008 06:41. Posts 16

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my session stats: 23/18, 39% att to steal, 83% flop cbet
villians: 33/10, no special notes
well played or not?
this river bet was like saying 'i got nuts' but I guess I had too strong hand to fold and there's also a chance on his bluffing,
maybe I should just bet flop stronger?


LamZZZik   . Sep 24 2008 06:42. Posts 22

raise pf ~3
nothing to think about here - bet turn shove river ; o

 Last edit: 24/09/2008 06:44

rgfdxm   United States. Sep 24 2008 06:45. Posts 979

^^ 100% correct, the ace shouldn't scare you at all and you still crush his range.


FiRe   Italy. Sep 24 2008 06:58. Posts 3

its not a bad beats forum LOL


MIStrZZZ   . Sep 24 2008 07:00. Posts 16

I wanted to check turn raise allin, but he betted so strongly which convinced me of the str8

 Last edit: 24/09/2008 07:00

rgfdxm   United States. Sep 24 2008 07:06. Posts 979

betting bigger preflop and on the flop is how you beat draws like this.

also you were in position so you can't check/raise turn, and he didn't even bet the turn to make you think he had the straight.

 Last edit: 24/09/2008 07:22

MIStrZZZ   . Sep 24 2008 07:42. Posts 16

I tried to 3bet around 3.5*+1 for caller, isn't that good?
I wanted to say check turn raise river or just value bet

 Last edit: 24/09/2008 07:43

lebowski   Greece. Sep 24 2008 08:09. Posts 3130


  On September 24 2008 07:42 MIStrZZZ wrote:
I tried to 3bet around 3.5*+1 for caller, isn't that good?
I wanted to say check turn raise river or just value bet


the turn brings in many draws that you must charge plus you have to build a pot to take all of his stack,not just part of it
if he checks river and you bet and he calls,he has succesfully pot controlled the hand,bet the turn there are very few hands that beat you.
Also his strong river bet might easily mean that he has an underset or two pair from which you could profit by raising,even if your read that he thinks he is strong is right,you have a huge hand that you have misrepresented,you have to raise here because the hands that you beat are so many that it's ridiculous.
if you go bananas with your betting only when you have the nuts,not only are you losing a lot of value in a lot of spots,but you're also very easy to exploit.
It may seem that you saved money here,but this is an overall losing play.

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

rgfdxm   United States. Sep 24 2008 08:10. Posts 979

My 3bet would be at least $2 without the caller in between, since bushido's raise was a minraise. With the caller, there's quite a bit more money in the pot when it gets to you so $2.25 is a bit small. Then I'd bet $5ish on the flop, since the pot would be over $6.50.

Checking turn loses value from lots of hands, just unlucky that he had the one hand that improved to beat you.


gororokgororok   Netherlands. Sep 24 2008 08:35. Posts 426

BET BET SHOVE !


MIStrZZZ   . Sep 24 2008 09:57. Posts 16

thx guys, I think that I just have the longest downswing ever, getting owned in every hand no matter how strong it is
I started to unconsciously play only the nuttiest nuts to the allin..


Critterer   United Kingdom. Sep 24 2008 14:34. Posts 3701

unless the turn is the ace of clubs im going to continue betting here because if its the Ac u can be sure that he has the nuts since its like ALWAYS the nuts so since its the Ah i wud bet the turn and check/fold turn if it comes Ac or 2c because those 2 cards hit everyone ALWAYS u can see.

LudaHid: dam.ned dam.ned dam.ned. LudaHid: dam.ned northwooden as..holeLast edit: 24/09/2008 14:34

Night2o1   United States. Sep 24 2008 16:04. Posts 1269


  On September 24 2008 14:34 Critterer wrote:
unless the turn is the ace of clubs im going to continue betting here because if its the Ac u can be sure that he has the nuts since its like ALWAYS the nuts so since its the Ah i wud bet the turn and check/fold turn if it comes Ac or 2c because those 2 cards hit everyone ALWAYS u can see.



what the fuck?


Feiticeira   United Kingdom. Sep 24 2008 17:17. Posts 2540

LOL c/f 2c

power poker. Mike, keep on dozin', baby.

The weird thing is I think McCain will win this. Im 100% certain Obama wont be elected and you guys can mark my words - Sheitan 

gymnast   Mexico. Sep 24 2008 23:30. Posts 348

I dont get it.....

anyhow
maybe the PF raise is that bad, but the flop is. bet harder so only KJ, JJ, 44 calls or raise you, but not draws


 




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