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tsasaobao   United States. Sep 21 2008 15:13. Posts 47

31/28/2.5 10% 3bet over 82 hands


PS I'm new to the table



Submitted by : tsasaobao

Full Tilt Poker Game #8169662633: Table Honors (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 18:05:48 ET - 2008/09/21
Seat 1: Oops Eye Win ($70.40)
Seat 2: mainenots ($129)
Seat 3: 2muchgame1 ($21.20)
Seat 4: Hero ($50)
Seat 5: All Upinyerpu ($44.65)
Seat 6: tdogallin ($79.90)
Hero posts the small blind of $0.25
All Upinyerpu posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero KcAd
tdogallin folds
Oops Eye Win folds
mainenots raises to $1.75
2muchgame1 folds
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $5.75
All Upinyerpu folds
mainenots has 15 seconds left to act
mainenots has requested TIME
mainenots raises to $13.50
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $41
mainenots raises to $123.50
Hero calls $9, and is all in
mainenots shows AhAc
Hero shows KcAd
Uncalled bet of $73.50 returned to mainenots

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $100.50)

   5hQc5s

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $100.50)

   5hQc5s9c

River (Pot : $100.50)

   5hQc5s9c9h
mainenots shows two pair, Aces and Nines
Hero shows two pair, Nines and Fives
mainenots wins the pot ($97.50) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Hero adds $50

Summary
Total pot $100.50 | Rake $3
Board:  5hQc5s9c9h
Seat 1: Oops Eye Win didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: mainenots showed AhAc and won ($97.50) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 3: 2muchgame1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Hero (small blind) showed KcAd and lost with two pair, Nines and Fives
Seat 5: All Upinyerpu (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: tdogallin didn't bet (folded)

 Last edit: 21/09/2008 15:16

YoUr_KiLLeR   United States. Sep 21 2008 15:40. Posts 117

is it worth getting AK in preflop while deep? im thinking its safe to assume that if someone is that deep, their pf shoving range is pretty tight, consisting of mostly big pocket pairs. you have a coinflip at best against pp's that arent KK/AA, and KK/AA has you dominated, so this seems like its -EV since their range leans heavily towards KK/AA.

 Last edit: 21/09/2008 15:42

geometryb   United States. Sep 21 2008 15:44. Posts 144

AK is the preflop nuts for 100bb. gogogo


geometryb   United States. Sep 21 2008 15:45. Posts 144

especially vs someone 3betting 10%


edzwoo   United States. Sep 21 2008 15:52. Posts 716


  On September 21 2008 15:40 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
is it worth getting AK in preflop while deep? im thinking its safe to assume that if someone is that deep, their pf shoving range is pretty tight, consisting of mostly big pocket pairs. you have a coinflip at best against pp's that arent KK/AA, and KK/AA has you dominated, so this seems like its -EV since their range leans heavily towards KK/AA.



This isn't deep; he has 100bb.


bongky   Peru. Sep 21 2008 15:55. Posts 1754

omg another AK thread -_-

dont u fkin limp my fkin blind 

[vital]Myth    United States. Sep 21 2008 16:59. Posts 10705

looks fine sick cooler

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

vegable   United States. Sep 22 2008 11:41. Posts 1651

I've folded here a handful of times. QQ + AK don't always 4bet whereas AA/KK will in that spot to extract value. His sizing was a huge tell, I might fold there if feeling focused

Stir fry NormandyLast edit: 22/09/2008 11:42

vegable   United States. Sep 22 2008 11:44. Posts 1651

his 3bet percentage tells you NOTHING about his 4bet range. if you've been clashing with him in a few pots before then you definitely get it in but since you're new at that table....think I fold there.

Stir fry Normandy 

NeillyJQ   United States. Sep 22 2008 16:16. Posts 3448

I fold AK left and right to 4bets

Soulreader 

TalentedTom    Canada. Sep 22 2008 17:41. Posts 9935

poker is about ranges, you obv ran into the top of his range dont be discouraged

A Handicapped parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Chuck Norris and that you will be handicapped if you park there. 

ikc5   United States. Sep 22 2008 19:34. Posts 276


  On September 22 2008 16:16 NeillyJQ wrote:
I fold AK left and right to 4bets



I think it's pretty common knowledge that this is bad, you're surely losing money assuming aggressive players and 100bb stacks.


Yugless    United States. Sep 22 2008 20:08. Posts 7174

in todays games folding AK to aggressive players is bad business

Baal - look is talking hah.  

 




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