PT: aggression factor vs aggresion frequency

so i've been using post flop aggression factor in my HUD for some time and im starting to think its not very easy to draw conclusions from this number

for example, when i hit a big hand and im OOP to the original raise who has a AF of like 6 doesnt mean he's super aggro and will insta cbet my check
aggression factor being (B+R)/C, players with high AF could be super aggro's or weak tights right?
if he check folds all missed flops and raises all the nuts, his AF is also super high

Im starting to think about using aggression frequency instead - (B+R)/(B+R+C+F)
does anyone else use it? what sorts of ranges indicate what style of play?
this stat doesn't allow you to differentiate between calling stations and weak tights right?

interested in what the FR multi tablers use (im currently playing NL25)
thanks

Afreq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AF

and your reasoning to draw this conclusion is 100% spot on

I started using this more as well, it basicly means how much % they bet this street right?

it means exactly what the formula says... % of action they raise or bet and the rest the % of folds, checks and calls.

On September 21 2008 12:28 [vital]Myth wrote: Afreq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AF and your reasoning to draw this conclusion is 100% spot on

thanks

for my auto rate rules im using 1.2 total AF to differentiate between aggressive and passive
what kind of ranges to you guys generally apply to TAG or station?

dont use autorate it blows

On September 21 2008 17:12 SakiSaki wrote: dont use autorate it blows

takes up too much system resources?
unreliable? for noobs?

I also have a question about PAHUD

i have the layout set up for players 1 through 9, but when i sit down and the table 'shifts' me to my preferred seat - the player stats dont move
how do you guys deal with this? just show the names with the stats?

On September 21 2008 17:33 John Galt wrote: I also have a question about PAHUD i have the layout set up for players 1 through 9, but when i sit down and the table 'shifts' me to my preferred seat - the player stats dont move how do you guys deal with this? just show the names with the stats?

You can set up your seating preferences, it just depends what site you are playing on.

In PAHUD go to options > preferences > select the pokersite

If its Tilt then make sure auto centre is selected and if its Stars click on the prefered seating tab and select the seats you use.

tyvm

On September 21 2008 17:20 John Galt wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2008 17:12 SakiSaki wrote: dont use autorate it blows takes up too much system resources? unreliable? for noobs?

just bc you are gonna be relying on stats far too much and not paying nearly enough attention to history and such

for noobs,

On September 21 2008 16:59 John Galt wrote: thanks for my auto rate rules im using 1.2 total AF to differentiate between aggressive and passive what kind of ranges to you guys generally apply to TAG or station?

lol as already said the autorate option isnt too good, better option is to colour-code your HUD stat, before i switched to aggression frequency i had less than 1.5 passive, 1.5-3 normal, higher than 3 aggressive.

but frequency is exponentially better

how do you color code ur ranges for agg freq?

0-1 = super passive
1-2.5 = kinda passive
2.5-4 = aggresive
>4 = batshit aggresive

anyone come up with some color code ranges for frequencies?

im talking street by street, not overall. As for overall aggr freq. my HEM shows ~30-60% being most profitable with a mean/median value of 31% and a standard deviation of 8.5

i just have my PAD show total post flop Afreq
is it useful to actually read into every street?
how many hands do you need to find it accurate?

I have like 500k datamined at 50nl with filters set at minimum of 100 hands/per player