KK vs random donkey ?

Submitted by : JohnnyMoss

***** Hand 1226087102 *****
1.00/2.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Saturday, September 06, 2008 6:15:59 PM
Turbo TH 32 (Real/Cash Game)
Seat 1: parrot999 (173.51)
Seat 2: ÀÐÒÈÑÒ (355.65)
Seat 3: leinad55 (161.75)
Seat 4: wtfichigo. (442.25)
Seat 5: tiribochi (401.25)
ÀÐÒÈÑÒ post SB 1.00
leinad55 post BB 2.00

Holecards
tiribochi
wtfichigo. Fold
tiribochi Raise to 7.00
parrot999 Fold
ÀÐÒÈÑÒ Call 7.00
leinad55 Call 7.00

Flop (Pot : $21.00)

   
ÀÐÒÈÑÒ Check
leinad55 Check
tiribochi Bet 21.00
ÀÐÒÈÑÒ Call 21.00
leinad55 Fold

Turn (Pot : $63.00)

   
ÀÐÒÈÑÒ Check
tiribochi Bet 58.00
ÀÐÒÈÑÒ Call 58.00

River (Pot : $179.00)

   
ÀÐÒÈÑÒ Bet 134.25
????????????????

shove

edit: if ppl slowplay sets on drawy boards then I'll pay them off...

I see very little value in shoving, calling looks best

I would shove and lose to A2c

hes got about 130 behind

vs his calling range

35 games 0.005 secs 7,000 games/sec

Board: 3c Jc Ts 2h 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.857% 51.43% 01.43% 18 0.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 47.143% 45.71% 01.43% 16 0.50 { TT+, 33, AJs, Ac2c, AJo }



if he calls with JT which i think this type of player will

44 games 0.072 secs 611 games/sec

Board: 3c Jc Ts 2h 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.500% 61.36% 01.14% 27 0.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 37.500% 36.36% 01.14% 16 0.50 { TT+, 33, AJs, Ac2c, JTs, AJo, JTo

On September 06 2008 11:34 Yugless wrote: hes got about 130 behind vs his calling range 35 games 0.005 secs 7,000 games/sec Board: 3c Jc Ts 2h 2s Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 52.857% 51.43% 01.43% 18 0.50 { KcKh } Hand 1: 47.143% 45.71% 01.43% 16 0.50 { TT+, 33, AJs, Ac2c, AJo } if he calls with JT which i think this type of player will 44 games 0.072 secs 611 games/sec Board: 3c Jc Ts 2h 2s Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 62.500% 61.36% 01.14% 27 0.50 { KcKh } Hand 1: 37.500% 36.36% 01.14% 16 0.50 { TT+, 33, AJs, Ac2c, JTs, AJo, JTo

lol @ these ranges

i'd include J9, KJ, QJ, AT, KT, QT some stupid AcXc which dosnt even have a pair but will call cause hes commited now

I think TT+ is also a silly range since it's almost inconceivable (even for most bad players) to have QQ-AA here

im just trying to show that we're flipping or ahead of a tight calling range

call

On September 06 2008 10:44 royalsu wrote: shove edit: if ppl slowplay sets on drawy boards then I'll pay them off...

I just think you catch him bluffing more than half the time here with a busted straight draw or something so I'd prolly just flat.

On September 06 2008 14:07 JonnyCosMo wrote: I just think you catch him bluffing more than half the time here with a busted straight draw or something so I'd prolly just flat.

lol so what, the thing is if he call us with worse over 50% than with better and this is obviouslyt he case.

shove always

On September 06 2008 17:14 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2008 14:07 JonnyCosMo wrote: I just think you catch him bluffing more than half the time here with a busted straight draw or something so I'd prolly just flat. lol so what, the thing is if he call us with worse over 50% than with better and this is obviouslyt he case. shove always

Fancy math sir!

What kind of range are you putting him on for taking this line and lead/calling the river?

I'd call, I don't see him calling a shove with a worse hand. I think he's showing bluffs a lot here.

you realize if we shove hes getting $130 to win $570, fish will convince himself to call here VERY often

call

he can valuebet here one pair? after playing two streets by c/c?
shouldn't it be missed draw ( KQ/98/clubs - and can he play like this missed draw OOP? ) or something that beats us ( A2cc/33/TT )? + JT

also 'random donkey' is 40/3/0.7 or 30/10/3?

I think I'd flat also. Don't think he calls enough of the times with worse to make a shove profitable actually. Could be that he called 2 streets with a deuce as well.. hands like A2cc or pretty much any flush draw with a deuce.

I think he almost always has a missed draw here though. I'd be content with just flatting here and taking a note.

rofl u guys are insane, he has to call 130 to win 570, he calls with ANY hand that has showdown value, for example, any jack and most Ts, if he has TT or 33 so be it -_-