50nl did i have equity on this turn shove?

been watching a lotta CTS vids lately. And i see him shove a lot on this situation.

Submitted by : flounder44

Full Tilt Poker Game #7915522379: Table Timber Canyon - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:06:48 ET - 2008/09/03
Seat 1: poolwiz1 ($9.50)
Seat 2: PeerPress ($30.20)
Seat 3: Cedar08 ($73.35)
Seat 4: flounder44 ($44.05)
Seat 5: Finmark32 ($18.90)
Seat 7: patlasue ($54.55)
Seat 8: catch016 ($49.75)
Seat 9: BradPitt86 ($13.45)
patlasue posts the small blind of $0.25
catch016 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to flounder44
BradPitt86 folds
justimblake adds $10
poolwiz1 folds
PeerPress has 15 seconds left to act
PeerPress folds
Cedar08 raises to $2
flounder44 calls $2
Finmark32 folds
patlasue folds
catch016 folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.75)

   
Cedar08 bets $4
flounder44 has 15 seconds left to act
flounder44 calls $4

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $12.75)

   
Cedar08 has 15 seconds left to act
Cedar08 bets $10
flounder44 raises to $38.05, and is all in
Cedar08 has 15 seconds left to act
Cedar08 has requested TIME
Cedar08 calls $28.05
flounder44 shows
Cedar08 shows

River (Pot : $88.85)

   
flounder44 shows two pair, Sevens and Twos
Cedar08 shows two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Cedar08 wins the pot ($85.85) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
flounder44 is sitting out

Summary
Total pot $88.85 | Rake $3
Board:  
Seat 1: poolwiz1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: PeerPress didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Cedar08 showed and won ($85.85) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 4: flounder44 showed and lost with two pair, Sevens and Twos
Seat 5: Finmark32 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: patlasue (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: catch016 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: BradPitt86 didn't bet (folded)

nh sir

To decide whether you have any FE you need to 3bet pf as a minimum to narrow down his range (what are his stats?). then depending on what happens you can decide to either raise or fold his cbet on the flop. If you raise and get called on the flop you would have know that you had no FE with this board and protected your stack.

You need FE to make shoving the turn even possibly +EV imo.

wp

Is calling this flop standard in FR?

On September 03 2008 07:01 rgfdxm wrote: Is calling this flop standard in FR?

nothin in this hand is standard in any form of poker

On September 03 2008 07:42 lachlan wrote: Show nested quote + On September 03 2008 07:01 rgfdxm wrote: Is calling this flop standard in FR? nothin in this hand is standard in any form of poker

<3<3

Actually, we could have had two topics about this hand, with 10+ people advocating fold with JJ here. Just wrong villain.

fold

wp!

On September 03 2008 01:12 flounder44 wrote: been watching a lotta CTS vids lately. And i see him shove a lot on this situation.

Sorry but... got to freaking love Cardrunners !!!

"been watching a lotta CTS vids lately. And i see him shove a lot on this situation"

CTS has never flatted AKs preflop in his life

This is more or less like a coin flip isnt it?

yeah preflop

This isn't nearly as terrible as you all make it out to be.
Hand me AKs in this situation on that flop, and I'm floating/bluffraising the flop 100% of the time because it misses so much of the villains range.
Really, sometimes its better to flat AK pre because 3betting often folds out hands we extract most value from ie. weaker Ax.
Sucks that you are all too fucking blind to see the truth.

dont be fancy and cts doesnt play nl50

Wow tell me it's a level, gotta be a level...

plz ?

3bet pf

3b pf