NL200 3bet pot river bluff--good?

Villain is a regular. We are deep, so I just called to set mine. My read is that if he had a strong hand like KK/AA, he would have check-raised flop or bet river. Here looks like he has QQ/JJ at best, a hand that is scared of both overpairs and set/straight. He is just not playing like someone who is looking to get value out of his hand, and this board is scary. From his point of view, if he has QQ, he beats JJ only, and if he has JJ, he beats nothing. Slowplayed AA/KK are possible, but really not likely. So who likes this bet?

Submitted by : phexac

PokerStars Game #19991725748: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/08/29 - 14:22:10 (ET)
Table 'Ounas' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Nobrah ($233.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Drakon83 ($246.15 in chips)
Seat 3: sunhunter83 ($333 in chips)
Seat 4: BigOwen ($191 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($295.95 in chips)
Seat 6: svein erik ($45.70 in chips)
Drakon83: posts small blind $1
sunhunter83: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
BigOwen: folds
Hero : raises $4 to $6
svein erik: folds
Nobrah: folds
Drakon83: folds
sunhunter83: raises $16 to $22
Hero : calls $16

Flop (Pot : $45.00)

   
sunhunter83: checks
Hero : bets $25
sunhunter83: calls $25

Turn (Pot : $95.00)

   
sunhunter83: checks
Hero : checks

River (Pot : $95.00)

   
sunhunter83: checks
Hero : bets $74
sunhunter83:

no

he beats bluffs, AA KK are basically the same as QQ JJ on this board and therefore should be viewed similarly in your read, your hand makes no sense as a monster unless you have 99, your flop bluff is WAY too small, you have no reason not to keep betting the turn if you want value.....

i mean nothing about what you're doing makes me believe he will want to fold A9

holdings that you don't win against in a checked through showdown will probably also call your river bet.

something weaker then your holding will usually not call your riverbet.

i agree with myth that the flop bet is small. but if it usually works good for you, i have no problems with it. (it doesn't work for me; if i don't pot, they don't fold)

If I'm gonna bluff here I'm betting 110$.

don't bluff this guy,srsly
he will talk himself into calling with A high.
That's what I got from him when he played nl50-100

then again maybe he plays differently now,who knows

isn't this guy a gigantic nit?

On August 30 2008 06:40 Python817 wrote: isn't this guy a gigantic nit?

sunhunter is a 50NL reg... and yeah he is a giant nit.

But i know he 3-bets very wide range in position pf, if he thinks you are way too aggressive pf. Were you raising too many hands?

if you're repping a set shouldn't you be firing a lot more on the flop? I mean if i have 66 i'm not making some itty bitty bet.

On August 30 2008 06:40 Python817 wrote: isn't this guy a gigantic nit?

no, and hes also awful so the 44 bluff is lol

Sunhunter used to be a gigantic nit but he is definitely not anymore.

I remember him from nl50 and back then he was really nitty like 12/9 or something

lol koreans

i check turn /w a boat here sometimes. just so when you hammer the river he goes lol zomg wtf.

i think the river bet is a value play

"From his point of view, if he has QQ, he beats JJ only, and if he has JJ, he beats nothing."

You fail to understand his point of view, if he has these hands he is pot controlling. By the river he has he successfully pot controlled the hand? (yes) therefore if he has any pair he is never folding to anything under a pot sized bet. To find this mythical fold equity you must venture into the overbet realm