100nl, top 2 on drawy flop, limped pot

No reads whatsoever, villain has played less than 10 hands at the table. I did not raise PF because I have been very active and wanted to play a small pot. What is the best action?

Submitted by : neveragain

PokerStars Game #19969347752: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/28 - 16:03:15 (ET)
Table 'Nereid' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: neveragain18 ($207.15 in chips)
Seat 2: klaro67 ($106.75 in chips)
Seat 3: kdj07 ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: danjros ($210.90 in chips)
Seat 5: wildbill8922 ($60 in chips)
Seat 6: tummen555 ($100 in chips)
neveragain18 : posts small blind $0.50
klaro67: posts big blind $1
wildbill8922: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to neveragain18
kdj07: folds
danjros: calls $1
wildbill8922: checks
tummen555: calls $1
neveragain18 : calls $0.50
klaro67: checks

Flop (Pot : $5.00)

   
neveragain18 : bets $4
klaro67: folds
danjros: folds
wildbill8922: calls $4
tummen555: raises $11 to $15
neveragain18 :

i would raise that pre

I call the flop raise

On August 28 2008 13:20 traxamillion wrote: i would raise that pre I call the flop raise

how should we proceed on the turn after calling?

probably by c/r ai on a nonspade nontj card, and muck to tj

i think you should potcontrol this. its not good to lose your stack in this unraised pot.

i would actually advocate a fold here and wait until you have a read. His line seems to scream a range of JT,KTss, Axss, KJ or even 99. You're only decently ahead of KJ and Axss; but not by enough to play a big pot imo.

if you cant call a reraise than c/ring might be better in these spots. if you call i hope you c/r turn all in.

On August 29 2008 01:35 JizzleSmitts wrote: i would actually advocate a fold here and wait until you have a read. His line seems to scream a range of JT,KTss, Axss, KJ or even 99. You're only decently ahead of KJ and Axss; but not by enough to play a big pot imo.

if hes aggro enough to raise KTss, then he also has K9, Q9 in this range

On August 29 2008 02:07 lostaccount wrote: if you cant call a reraise than c/ring might be better in these spots. if you call i hope you c/r turn all in.

can you elaborate on this a little bit please?

because people will light reraise flops to see where they are or trying to figure out how weak your flop bet is. Hard to 3 bet him on this flop in a limped pot, so the point being made is if you c/r all his weak hands/bets on flop that he might also do reraises in position will fold out and only his very strong hands will be pushing over your c/r and marginal hands maybe flatting trying to peel a gutshot with TP or something. Point being you will save money when you are dominated and make more value/have a better idea of your strength taking the c/r line more often than not. Otherwise you need to be getting it allin on turn on pretty much any card with a c/r as played

On August 29 2008 08:48 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2008 01:35 JizzleSmitts wrote: i would actually advocate a fold here and wait until you have a read. His line seems to scream a range of JT,KTss, Axss, KJ or even 99. You're only decently ahead of KJ and Axss; but not by enough to play a big pot imo. if hes aggro enough to raise KTss, then he also has K9, Q9 in this range

very true. WWTTD?

rofl jeff smith is a nit.

you have top 2 pair wtf.

i really like the line of flatting the raise and then leading or check/shoving a clean turn. i like leading better cuz a lot of players will check behind /w a draw here and take a free card if they miss the turn.

Call him down. If he shuts down, put in a bet on the river.