River decision?

Villain stats are 14/10/10 over 50 hands and I havent seen him making any silly plays:

Submitted by : 4kinggenius

PokerStars Game #19906419752: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/08/26 - 03:19:13 (ET)
Table 'Alleghenia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sweethard177 ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($49.35 in chips)
Seat 3: cueace ($12.10 in chips)
Seat 4: hitriver29 ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 5: rostboot ($16.25 in chips)
Seat 6: dan6937 ($24 in chips)
Hero : posts small blind $0.10
cueace: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
hitriver29: raises $0.75 to $1
rostboot: folds
dan6937: calls $1
sweethard177: folds
Hero : raises $2.75 to $3.75
cueace: folds
hitriver29: calls $2.75
dan6937: calls $2.75

Flop (Pot : $11.50)

   
Hero : checks
hitriver29: checks
dan6937: bets $2
Hero : raises $3.50 to $5.50
hitriver29: folds
dan6937: calls $3.50

Turn (Pot : $22.50)

   
Hero : checks
dan6937: checks

River (Pot : $22.50)

   
Hero : checks
dan6937: bets $8
Hero : ?

i hate your flop play

i'd c/c the flop and lead the turn

bad flop play and obvious call! actually the Q is good because you will no longer lose to AQ! how ever I don't see him having a K and checking behind you on turn. TJ doesn't fit to his PF play as well. but you should bet flop and evaluate to see if villain has a K.

so even with his stats and calls of 3 bets and CR (or Cbet if I had gone that route) you would still lead the turn Crown Royal?

BTW - I did call his $8 and he showed down 66......

your flop c/r didnt really accomplish anything tbh, the only thing you'll fold out is complete air
I'd rather c/c and re-eval on turn. Against someone whos 14/10, I'm not loving life though.

(Edit: If you are going to raise) - I would raise pre a little more - maybe $4.50/$5 - the first guy has only $2.75 to call for a $5.75 pot, once he calls the second guy is in there with anything.

I would lead the flop - saves lots of difficult decisions later.

As played you would have to call as you never showed any strength. The c/r to less than half pot was almost as gay as his gay bet (sorry mate!).....I know you love to c/r....

Even if you had c/r'd to a decent amount you were only getting crushed if he did have a king and getting no value from hands like.....66

the guy is 14/10/10 and you 3bet his UTG 2bet from oop when you have AJs?
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the flop play is ofc horrible too; i guess the river is probably about neutral EV. you can hope he had AQ or maybe even AJ here and split frequently enough that it might be worth a call

uh your line sux hard mate......

suicide poker ftw

cheers guys. I knew i had played it bad - didnt realise how bad!! thanks for your input - all helps with the learning curve.

On August 27 2008 14:00 Question wrote: uh your line sux hard mate......

lead flop shoves turn my opinion

i dont like this line on these stakes, aye dont check turn
as played snap river

you already made your choice @ flop. now call

On August 27 2008 01:50 4kinggenius wrote: BTW - I did call his $8 and he showed down 66......

I would much rather have seen AK here than 66 as it confuses me even more to the thought processes at this level.

66 is about the only hand that no-one on here has managed to suggest he had!

I noticed this hand but you already gave the results. At these stakes, this type of line by a villain is almost always a low pocket pair. The mentality is "oh, a paired board, it's unlikely that they caught anything." Donks will take this line with a K as well, but they will pot the river.

Ya c/c the flop. Your raise folds out possible weaker aces which you get value from later and puts you in big pot decisions on later streets if he stays in the hand. As played you have to call with those pot odds.