KK can i ever fold here?

Submitted by : studmufflynn

Full Tilt Poker Game #7625215528: $1 Rebuy (57904260), Table 31 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:52:30 ET - 2008/08/12
Seat 1: Hero (7,570)
Seat 2: Ricardo2345 (3,455)
Seat 3: GALLOWAY31 (8,430)
Seat 4: brypc (8,225)
Seat 5: horserisky (16,480)
Seat 6: perby78 (1,690)
Seat 7: petranite (15,930)
Seat 8: acmeace1 (4,500)
Seat 9: Au_Paradox (4,100)
Hero posts the small blind of 60
Ricardo2345 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #9

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
GALLOWAY31 has 15 seconds left to act
GALLOWAY31 raises to 240
brypc folds
horserisky folds
perby78 folds
petranite has 15 seconds left to act
petranite folds
acmeace1 folds
Au_Paradox folds
Hero raises to 680
Ricardo2345 folds
GALLOWAY31 has 15 seconds left to act
GALLOWAY31 raises to 8,430, and is all in
Hero calls 6,890, and is all in
GALLOWAY31 shows
Hero shows
Uncalled bet of 860 returned to GALLOWAY31

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $15,260.00)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $15,260.00)

   

River (Pot : $15,260.00)

   
Hero : gg
GALLOWAY31 shows a pair of Aces
Hero shows a pair of Kings
GALLOWAY31 wins the pot (15,260) with a pair of Aces
Hero stands up
The blinds are now 80/160

no you cant

I suck at writing apparently cause I can't put this into context I like but if you assume no one folds kings pf (really, who does?) then you're never wrong to get your's in too cause they can show up with worse + you will get AAs vs KKs too.

I had sushi for dinner

haha who folds kk pf -_-

What if it was an utg limp/rrai? I find that it's like 70/30 between AA/AK there (I never see anything else) so wouldn't KK be a dog against that range (even at 50/50)? I personally never fold kings pre-flop but I've been thinking about doing it there.

On August 14 2008 04:44 Sicks Macks wrote: What if it was an utg limp/rrai? I find that it's like 70/30 between AA/AK there (I never see anything else) so wouldn't KK be a dog against that range (even at 50/50)? I personally never fold kings pre-flop but I've been thinking about doing it there.

yeah if your experience honestly tells you that you're up against 70% AA then you should fold, but i'd ask for others' opinions about that read first. but yeah i mean any time you are pretty sure that your opponent has AA almost all the time, you should fold KK preflop (unless already committed by sick odds or something)...it's just really rare to make that read.

but yeah imo you're gonna see random dumb stuff like A4, 66, etc. far too often to fold here. i wouldn't even consider folding for a second. BUT i do think that, in a different world or a different tournament, i would consider folding. consider.

On August 13 2008 20:07 TwistedEcho wrote: I had sushi for dinner

Damn I love sushi, I had subway myself

I just prepared myself a nice BBQ, sausages and chicken

you can't stack him if you fold!

i'm going to kill a deer and bar b q that =)

On August 14 2008 04:44 Sicks Macks wrote: What if it was an utg limp/rrai? I find that it's like 70/30 between AA/AK there (I never see anything else) so wouldn't KK be a dog against that range (even at 50/50)?

its not 50/50, and no.

$1 Rebuy

never, ever, ever, ever, ever fold here.

lol fold KK

haha i'm guessing you got it already but yeah, any tourny you play don't fold kk pre

this thread is a joke right?

just say "if he has me beat fuck my life"

well my friend folded kings preflop on day 1 of borgata 2k deepstack, n the other guy showed aces...then my friend chopped for 300k

so moral of the story is, always fold kings preflop, and you will get $300,000

I didnt fold kings preflop in the first day of GUKPT London (and got shown aces) and Ket won for $200,000

Moral of the story is Ket won

and op no you can't fold this in a 1 dollar rebuy. esp not like this