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John Galt   Canada. Aug 06 2008 15:27. Posts 618

Submitted by : John Galt

PokerStars Game #19409622837: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/08/06 - 15:33:37 (ET)
Table 'Sun V' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: ttaylor19705 ($5.75 in chips)
Seat 2: APDEORIAN1 ($27.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Leandra77 ($4.40 in chips)
Seat 4: CheesyCake ($2.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($25.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Estoque ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 7: Der_Dave13 ($9.45 in chips)
Seat 8: dud54 ($5.25 in chips)
Der_Dave13: posts small blind $0.05
dud54: posts big blind $0.10
steifel: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KsKh
ttaylor19705: folds
APDEORIAN1: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Leandra77: folds
CheesyCake: folds
Hero : raises $0.80 to $1.10
Estoque: folds
Der_Dave13: folds
dud54: folds
APDEORIAN1: calls $0.80

Flop (Pot : $2.35)

   5s6sQs
APDEORIAN1: bets $0.50
Hero : calls $0.50

Turn (Pot : $3.35)

   5s6sQsTh
APDEORIAN1: bets $3
Hero : calls $3

River (Pot : $9.35)

   5s6sQsTh3s
APDEORIAN1: bets $7
Hero : ?



no real history, saw him shove top set Q earlier
i dont really put him on KK/AA after he flats my 3bet and leads small
small betting the mono flop with top set Q to get action?
i have the Ks, so if he flopped the nut flush, its smaller than AJss, how often does he flat 3bet OOP with Axs

im scared out of my mind on the river, the nut flush is so likely, but I beat a set of Q now...
as played do i call his big river bet?

should i have folded flop? ever?
im beat by AA, QQ, Axss, any small PP's who flat my 3bet to set mine

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MaidenFan: Stop worrying about what might be or what coulda been, the former is totally out of your control, and the latter is nothing but a twisted fantasyLast edit: 06/08/2008 15:28

rogier   Netherlands. Aug 06 2008 15:38. Posts 1528

im calling here tbh, think your range assignment is correct but think it includes JTs, AKo, perhaps even AJo and some air variants

no never fold flop lol, actually i prefer a raise

 Last edit: 06/08/2008 15:39

Royal_Rumble   Germany. Aug 06 2008 15:43. Posts 1760

raise flop ffs.

money won is twice as sweet as money earned.  

John Galt   Canada. Aug 06 2008 15:46. Posts 618

i was pretty scared every street here...
QQ? AsKx? AA?

MaidenFan: Stop worrying about what might be or what coulda been, the former is totally out of your control, and the latter is nothing but a twisted fantasy 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 06 2008 15:52. Posts 20070


  On August 06 2008 14:46 John Galt wrote:
i was pretty scared every street here...
QQ? AsKx? AA?



this is a preety easy river call, not sure what he has - your just playing the absolute strength of your hand - you played it fine

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PplusAD   Germany. Aug 06 2008 16:06. Posts 7182

id raise flop all day !

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

chris   United States. Aug 06 2008 16:09. Posts 5511

at 10nl im raising every street. i would listen to tom.

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roflcopter   United States. Aug 06 2008 17:26. Posts 620

I don't think he'd be flatting the preflop raise with aa here unless he is a total idiot. raise flop hard and I think river should be an easy call.

KwarK_uK: and if that was a bluff you deserved the pot for ballerness 

kvejkr   Czech Republic. Aug 06 2008 17:52. Posts 13

u just have to realize that u want to get as much money as possible, so raise his life on flop and turn...


Brobebrato   Bulgaria. Aug 06 2008 18:01. Posts 276

You chose such a weak line dude, having the lead, you can't fold here, ever.

Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat  

John Galt   Canada. Aug 06 2008 18:25. Posts 618

thanks guys
yeh river is a call
but does his strong bet on a 4 flush board make his move all that much stronger?
like QQ proly just wants to see a cheap showdown right?

i found the small flop bet very suspicious, is this easy raise?

MaidenFan: Stop worrying about what might be or what coulda been, the former is totally out of your control, and the latter is nothing but a twisted fantasy 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 06 2008 18:25. Posts 9634

why do u call 3 streets with a hand u r dominating ur opponents like 80% of the time and then ask if u can fold the 2nd nuts ....
raise flop raise turn shove river be a happy man if u r too scared to put money in with an overpair and K high flushdraw u should go down to 2nl or smtng


Critterer   United Kingdom. Aug 06 2008 18:51. Posts 5337

raise flop alldayyyyyy

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thestoryteller   Singapore. Aug 07 2008 04:15. Posts 319

You raise flop for sure, firstly because he doesn't always have a flush. He might be bluffing or have top pair or something. So you might have him beaten. Even if you don't have him beaten, you hold the king of spades, so you still have outs if he decides to shove or something. And, if he's an idiot, he might actually have a set, get really frightened of your raise, and decide to fold.


John Galt   Canada. Aug 07 2008 10:44. Posts 618

thanks everyone
I had a really bad feeling about it as soon as i saw the small flop lead, but you're right, i had a very strong hand i guess im just disappointed he showed me A7ss after i called the river bet and sorta thought the big bet screamed As

MaidenFan: Stop worrying about what might be or what coulda been, the former is totally out of your control, and the latter is nothing but a twisted fantasyLast edit: 07/08/2008 10:49

John Galt   Canada. Aug 08 2008 22:34. Posts 618

im very scared of As on every street...
the small flop lead really confused and scared me
why is flop or turn raise bad?
should i try to get it all in?

MaidenFan: Stop worrying about what might be or what coulda been, the former is totally out of your control, and the latter is nothing but a twisted fantasy 

 



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