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Forrest Gump   Argentina. Aug 03 2008 05:42. Posts 1217

The shortie is 60/35, also playing at another table with me with a $900 stack. The SB is a 15/10 nit also multitabling a bit
My plan was to play a big pot with position with the deep player, but things changed and if I call I have to shove any reasonable flop
How playable is this type of hand? Its ok to open with it utg? I had to fold in any stage of the hand?

Submitted by : Forrest Gump

POKERSTARS GAME #19315855430: OMAHA POT LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2008/08/03 - 01:08:50 (ET)
Table 'Pelagia II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: DadyDimSum ($195 in chips)
Seat 3: GRW47 ($119.60 in chips)
Seat 4: pizarro1 ($187.90 in chips)
Seat 5: OmahaStudGuy ($40 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($579.80 in chips)
pizarro1: posts small blind $1
OmahaStudGuy: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero 8h9s9h7d
Hero : raises $4 to $6
DadyDimSum: folds
GRW47: folds
pizarro1: calls $5
OmahaStudGuy: raises $18 to $24
Hero : calls $18
pizarro1: raises $72 to $96
OmahaStudGuy: calls $16 and is all-in
Hero :

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Kusimuumi   Finland. Aug 04 2008 18:42. Posts 186

Fold pre, fold to the raise, and as played fold. Your hand is a trap type of hand and not nearly strong enough to play from that position as it doesn't play that well postflop and you really don't want to get it in preflop.
When you get that kind of action from a shortie, you know he's crushing your range and there's not nearly enough space to maneuver at later streets due to his stack. Now when the multitabler nit has joined the action, you're really, really, really crushed. Just fold there and pick a better spot.

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TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 04 2008 23:27. Posts 20070

looks like pizarro1 has aces - im not sure if your hand has odds to peel a flop vs aces - do some omaha math

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frenchylucky   Finland. Aug 05 2008 02:29. Posts 1788

Don t really know if it s help, but that give us an idea preflop..
you really have a junk hand, i would have prefer something double suited and the pair 99 vs AA ?!,
8910J double suited, fine with this hand..

so first example assuming that you face AA and second player KK and that your flush draw is dominated



second example , assuming that pizzaro hold again AA but your flush draw is still alive , so against double pocket AAXX and other player have 4 over card..AKQ10...



third example pizzaro still with AA rag but hold your 9 and second player have a high possible str8 and hold a 9 too + high flush



I was playing poker with tarot cards the other night. I got a full house and four people died. WTF...welcome to finland...Last edit: 05/08/2008 02:37

sawseech   Canada. Aug 05 2008 02:57. Posts 3182

Seat 5: OmahaStudGuy ($40 in chips)

lets go fucking mental la la la la lets go fucking mental lets go fucking mental lala la la 

frenchylucky   Finland. Aug 05 2008 04:31. Posts 1788

so concerning both player without omahastudguy
versus AAXX heart ...Win: 68.43%
AAQQ no heart 64.61%

ez fold.. bully commit half of his stack PF.

I was playing poker with tarot cards the other night. I got a full house and four people died. WTF...welcome to finland...Last edit: 05/08/2008 07:09

YoMeR   United States. Aug 06 2008 20:40. Posts 12438

if that 9 of spades was a T of diamonds i shove here awww day.

fuck those nits that only shove pf with AAxx ;D

eZ Life. 

Ket    United Kingdom. Aug 23 2008 18:18. Posts 8665

fold to the first squeeze from the shortstack here


yellowsub   United States. Aug 26 2008 00:43. Posts 4

def gotta pitch this, maybe if you werent paired


 



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