nl400 bottom two

Submitted by : szwindel

PokerStars Game #19097830793: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/07/25 - 17:46:01 (ET)
Table 'Geraldina V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: UCIPitcher ($348 in chips)
Seat 3: Goral ($394 in chips)
Seat 4: szwindel ($406.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Dom92 ($168.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Lockjaw ($666.45 in chips)
Dom92: posts small blind $2
Lockjaw: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to szwindel
UCIPitcher: folds
Goral: folds
szwindel : raises $8 to $12
Dom92: calls $10
Lockjaw: calls $8

Flop (Pot : $36.00)

   
Dom92: checks
Lockjaw: checks
szwindel : bets $28
Dom92: folds
Lockjaw: raises $56 to $84
szwindel :

i'd reraise, doesn't seem he's agressive enough (stats) to continue firing on a blank turn and by just calling you're practically giving him a free card

if he has J9, T8 or an unlikely set money is going in anyways

but if you raise you force worse to fold, better to shove. By calling you let him to put some moeny with worse hand on turn imo its better.

raise ez

Make it 166 or something.

seems kinda thin to 3bet here imo. You're not really giving that much info on the villain but I don't think most players with stats like him will be putting the money in with worse esp with no FD out there. I think this spot is pretty tough actually b/c I don't really like any of your options here. A 3bet will overrep your hand imo, calling will put you in tough spots on a lot of turn cards. Really wish you had more info on the villain but as is I might just fold here without a read.

You got the nuts. 3bet/ship. If you flat you let him get away from his probably pair+gut or TPTK. He might fold it anyway but he's more likely to get it in on the flop.

On July 26 2008 09:46 Twisted wrote: Make it 166 or something.

close between call / fold

yeah... i can't fold it right away tho... i call and evaluate the turn...

i think if we 3 bet here it'll be really hard to get called by worse imo.

additionally people play very straight forward in multiway pots.

something to consider.

i prob just fold but maybe peel one street because you're getting good odds

for whoever is eager to get it in here

that's a huge leak lol

On July 27 2008 10:59 [vital]Myth wrote: i prob just fold but maybe peel one street because you're getting good odds

main reason to reraise for me would be that he does c/r this flop with TPTK / JT / QT / rare bluff / along with the hands that beat you

so by just calling he'll probably shut down with all the hands that don't beat you on the flop and only continue when he catches something

so most of the times you won't win more money by flatcalling, but you will lose more if he improves

so isn't it a raise / fold situation? or am i way off here?

and why are you so tempted to fold, is this really such a bad spot?

(and yes I probably have some leaks)

At first I thought it was an easy call, but then there are arguments to raise to like 166, even tho I dont think he bluffs often it might happen.But mostly because if he is raising with a J or some pair+gutshot he isnt folding and if we call there are gonna be a lot of turns that can give him str8 or better 2p to put us in a tough spot.

I agree with myth. Wow getting it in here is soo spewy lol

yeah, ppl doesnt bluff these textures enough to make you want to get it in here,,, I would maybe peel once, but give up if he fires again... And if the guy is nitty, and not creative i would prolly pitch right away..