[NL10] -EV to fold AK pf?

Submitted by : k4ir0s

PokerStars Game #19107848151: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/07/26 - 01:58:48 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: kQjTENnine ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 2: jorgito76 ($6 in chips)
Seat 3: trouble_354 ($4.80 in chips)
Seat 4: joeydacloser ($6.45 in chips)
Seat 5: k4ir0s ($24.60 in chips)
Seat 6: tigerdaros ($5.90 in chips)
Seat 7: siphonURZ ($8.15 in chips)
Seat 8: KY_KID_78 ($10 in chips)
Seat 9: m4ntis505 ($10.70 in chips)
m4ntis505: posts small blind $0.05
kQjTENnine: posts big blind $0.10
jorgito76: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards
Dealt to k4ir0s
jorgito76: checks
trouble_354: folds
joeydacloser: folds
k4ir0s : raises $0.40 to $0.50
tigerdaros: calls $0.50
siphonURZ: raises $0.40 to $0.90
KY_KID_78: folds
m4ntis505: folds
kQjTENnine: folds
jorgito76: folds
k4ir0s : calls $0.40
tigerdaros: raises $5 to $5.90 and is all-in
siphonURZ: folds

I couldn't do it to a guy that can't even buyin full
even if its full ring which I know close to nothing about

there yeah at fr ur up vs kk aa almost all the time

folding NEVER has -EV. folding always has neutral EV. that's what you fishies need to learn: it's ok to fold if you're beat.

On _JULY 26 2008 01:10 Royal_Rumble wrote: folding NEVER has -EV. folding always has neutral EV. that's what you fishies need to learn: it's ok to fold if you're beat.

QFT, if folding was the worst play is another situation to talk about, maybe calling/raising was better since it was +EV. For the situation given, it's really annoying that the initial 3-bettor has position on you, otherwise I insta-call (after he folds considering you'd have position and would be last to act preflop) on 6-max and mostly get shown a small PP or ATo and the likes. Don't know if there is a huge difference on FR and given there is still some guy to act behind that can definitly have a monster this is just a clear fold.

Edit: I can't read, you are last to act so that would make me calling if this would be 6-max, not sure about FR though since somebody already mentioned this is AA/KK a lot there. Decided to let the thing about him being last to act in there, to some it might sound obvious but maybe somebody gets something out of it, I don't know...

Because of his line and short stack I'd probably call.

But at NL10 I generally wouldn't look to get AK in preflop without a read, at least if it plays anything like it did when I was playing there.

I can't fold here. If he was creative enough to smooth call with AA/KK here then more power to him, but the combination of it being quite unlikely + shortstack + dead money in the pot makes me beat him to the pot.

ez fold

100% snap call and celebrate

theres $3 of dead money in there costs you $5 to call, easiest descion in poker history

On July 26 2008 07:29 dogmeat wrote: ez fold

ban

On July 26 2008 12:56 TalentedTom wrote: theres $3 of dead money in there costs you $5 to call, easiest descion in poker history