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tokeweed   Philippines. Jul 23 2008 19:06. Posts 2106

Submitted by : tokeweed

Seat 1: _Fast_ $125.38
Seat 2: Germack00 $101.50
Seat 3: Hero $100.00
Seat 4: BorroBer $138.95
_Fast_ posts the small blind of $0.50
Germack00 posts the big blind of $1.00
BorroBer is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero QsKd
Hero raises $3.50
BorroBer calls $3.50
_Fast_ calls $3.50
Germack00 folds
*** FLOP ***KsTdJs
_Fast_ bets $11.50
Hero raises $33.00
BorroBer folds
_Fast_ calls $33.00
*** TURN ***KsTdJs 4h
_Fast_ checks



villain is 25/15/1.5
i have no real history with him yet as this is my first time seeing him at the tables... so i have no solid reads on him... but he is kinda passive...

should i check behind and take the free card here?

big hand = bong loadsLast edit: 23/07/2008 19:06

Sheitan   Canada. Jul 23 2008 19:54. Posts 3302

Well you either jam the turn or check and give him a free card, the fact he donks lead the flop into 2 people makes me think he's not on a draw since you say he's kinda passive and would be more inclined into check/calling his draws. I don't hate checking here because he's not folding a lot of his range to your turn shove.

 Last edit: 23/07/2008 19:55

Twisted    Netherlands. Jul 24 2008 03:40. Posts 6950

This is actually pretty hard because he could have hands like QJ/QT/Spadedraw which you want value from but at the same time he could've flopped a straight or something. In the moment I probably check behind and see what happens on the river. If it blanks and he checks to me I probably valuebet like 1/3 pot.


EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jul 24 2008 04:00. Posts 2337

Lead/call on this kind of board is never nut type hands imo, its almost always some combodraw or pair+fd or str8 draw, Id bet/call here since you are not gonna like all rivers and his hands looks drawy.


[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 24 2008 05:11. Posts 10355

you should only check behind if you think your flop raise was an outrageous spew

kna mean

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

collegesucks   United States. Jul 24 2008 09:01. Posts 2426


  On July 24 2008 05:11 [vital]Myth wrote:
you should only check behind if you think your flop raise was an outrageous spew

kna mean



why is that? spew in what sense? like we're not getting value from worse and never folding out better???

=D 

EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jul 24 2008 09:15. Posts 2337


  On July 24 2008 09:01 collegesucks wrote:
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why is that? spew in what sense? like we're not getting value from worse and never folding out better???

If he was raising for value on the flop the turn doesnt change anything so he should bet again, if he doesnt think he gets called by worse he shouldnt have raised the flop.


collegesucks   United States. Jul 24 2008 09:29. Posts 2426

ah of course..

=D 

Minsk   Belarus. Jul 24 2008 11:33. Posts 52

that seems to be missing that worse hands could call the raise on flop, then get more info and fold those same calling hands to further bet on turn , no?

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[vital]Myth    United States. Jul 24 2008 14:26. Posts 10355


  On July 24 2008 11:33 Minsk wrote:
that seems to be missing that worse hands could call the raise on flop, then get more info and fold those same calling hands to further bet on turn , no?

such as what hands?

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

Baal   . Jul 24 2008 19:33. Posts 17812


  On July 24 2008 05:11 [vital]Myth wrote:
you should only check behind if you think your flop raise was an outrageous spew

kna mean



nice post

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