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tokeweed   Philippines. Jul 23 2008 20:06. Posts 2149 | | | |
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Sheitan   Canada. Jul 23 2008 20:54. Posts 4217 | | |
Well you either jam the turn or check and give him a free card, the fact he donks lead the flop into 2 people makes me think he's not on a draw since you say he's kinda passive and would be more inclined into check/calling his draws. I don't hate checking here because he's not folding a lot of his range to your turn shove. |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Jul 24 2008 04:40. Posts 10422 | | |
This is actually pretty hard because he could have hands like QJ/QT/Spadedraw which you want value from but at the same time he could've flopped a straight or something. In the moment I probably check behind and see what happens on the river. If it blanks and he checks to me I probably valuebet like 1/3 pot. |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jul 24 2008 05:00. Posts 8918 | | |
Lead/call on this kind of board is never nut type hands imo, its almost always some combodraw or pair+fd or str8 draw, Id bet/call here since you are not gonna like all rivers and his hands looks drawy. |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 24 2008 06:11. Posts 12159 | | |
you should only check behind if you think your flop raise was an outrageous spew
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collegesucks   United States. Jul 24 2008 10:01. Posts 5780 | | |
| | On July 24 2008 05:11 [vital]Myth wrote:
you should only check behind if you think your flop raise was an outrageous spew
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why is that? spew in what sense? like we're not getting value from worse and never folding out better??? |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jul 24 2008 10:15. Posts 8918 | | |
| | On July 24 2008 09:01 collegesucks wrote:
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On July 24 2008 05:11 [vital]Myth wrote:
you should only check behind if you think your flop raise was an outrageous spew
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why is that? spew in what sense? like we're not getting value from worse and never folding out better???
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If he was raising for value on the flop the turn doesnt change anything so he should bet again, if he doesnt think he gets called by worse he shouldnt have raised the flop. |
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collegesucks   United States. Jul 24 2008 10:29. Posts 5780 | | | |
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Minsk   United States. Jul 24 2008 12:33. Posts 1558 | | |
that seems to be missing that worse hands could call the raise on flop, then get more info and fold those same calling hands to further bet on turn , no? |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 24 2008 15:26. Posts 12159 | | |
| | On July 24 2008 11:33 Minsk wrote:
that seems to be missing that worse hands could call the raise on flop, then get more info and fold those same calling hands to further bet on turn , no? |
such as what hands? |
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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 24 2008 20:33. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On July 24 2008 05:11 [vital]Myth wrote:
you should only check behind if you think your flop raise was an outrageous spew
kna mean |
nice post  |
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