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rockman255   Canada. Jul 20 2008 13:49. Posts 4471 | | | |
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CrownRoyal   United States. Jul 20 2008 13:55. Posts 11386 | | |
lol?easy fold bro
you have sick pot odds but you're drawing dead.
tbh in the spur of the moment i don't think ive ever played aa so passively but I think on this flop with this action you can flat AA and fold to any medium action on the turn |
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rockman255   Canada. Jul 20 2008 13:56. Posts 4471 | | |
i felt that i had to play them aggressively to find out where i was at, shrug
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CrownRoyal   United States. Jul 20 2008 14:00. Posts 11386 | | |
well the action in front of you is pretty scary so I think at best you should raise to 6-7 dollars for information which will tell you everything you need to know + let you fold easily |
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capaneo   Canada. Jul 20 2008 14:10. Posts 8465 | | |
Call this %100. Specially if 42scraggle knows that atmiam is a retard you have to call here %100. |
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Exhilarate   United States. Jul 20 2008 14:10. Posts 5453 | | |
easy fold i agree.
when the board is so dry and you're getting tons of action it's pretty obvious what they have, unless you have a better read |
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capaneo   Canada. Jul 20 2008 14:22. Posts 8465 | | |
Atmiam seriously shoves ANY k here and he is playing %80.
42scraggle Can easily do this with any K better than KT or even str8 draw easily thinking you will fold your hand here. As a matter of fact if 42scraggle has called here insted of shoving I would be more inclined to fold(but I still wouldn't).
If 42scraggle has any hand he would raise atmiami on the flop. This is very easy call. Dont listen to these retards and call here %100. Against a 18/10 I NEVER fold AK here either.
Also you have to call $16 to win $50. So you need %24. EVEN if one of them has a set. You are around %10. If one of them has 2 pairs I think you HAVE to call. |
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X bour420   United States. Jul 20 2008 14:41. Posts 238 | | |
HOW IS THIS AN EASY FOLD? ur ahead about half the time here and u have insane pot odds. u have to realize its just as likely that they both have a K or one has a straight draw as it is that ur up against set/2pair (AND against 2-p u should be calling anyway as u have 9 outs on 2 streets anyway) so basically folding is pansy. |
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chris   United States. Jul 20 2008 15:05. Posts 5511 | | |
i love Cap. agree with everything he said pretty much. if one guy is a maniac he could be shoving A5 34 A2 etc etc, and the other doesnt even necessarily have to have a K.
i wouldnt be surprised if one had a set of 222 tho |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 20 2008 15:12. Posts 12159 | | |
eh it's close, i don't hate a call or a fold here |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 20 2008 15:13. Posts 12159 | | |
i like to call bc you are like 9% to win even if one of them has a set and i don't think one of them has a set very often bc KK 3bets pre |
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Loco   Canada. Jul 20 2008 15:13. Posts 21022 | | |
how is this a squeeze spot and how is the guy utg? hes in he small blind
this is a fold because the 18/10 guy almost always has a set here
I think the rest of the time he has AK even though its the perfect spot to reraise pre flop some nits just don't |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 20 2008 15:13. Posts 12159 | | |
but that might not be a good enough reason ^ |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Jul 20 2008 15:14. Posts 12159 | | |
die loco for interrupting my spampost |
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chris   United States. Jul 20 2008 15:25. Posts 5511 | | |
why wouldnt AK 3bet pre tho? maniac is probably close to any two and you almost polarize a range that the other guy calls with. |
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chris   United States. Jul 20 2008 15:26. Posts 5511 | | |
you also put ~ 33% of your stack in already. |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Jul 20 2008 16:22. Posts 1687 | | | |
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Exhilarate   United States. Jul 20 2008 16:28. Posts 5453 | | |
| | On July 20 2008 13:22 capaneo wrote:
Atmiam seriously shoves ANY k here and he is playing %80.
42scraggle Can easily do this with any K better than KT or even str8 draw easily thinking you will fold your hand here. As a matter of fact if 42scraggle has called here insted of shoving I would be more inclined to fold(but I still wouldn't).
If 42scraggle has any hand he would raise atmiami on the flop. This is very easy call. Dont listen to these retards and call here %100. Against a 18/10 I NEVER fold AK here either.
Also you have to call $16 to win $50. So you need %24. EVEN if one of them has a set. You are around %10. If one of them has 2 pairs I think you HAVE to call. |
but just because he's 18/10 doesn't mean he's stacking off light. he's gunna show up with a set pretty often
an 18/10 player would probably 3bet KK and AK in this spot, and he's certainly not stacking off with KQ.
wouldn't this be a -EV call in the long run since you're almost always drawing to 2 outs? |
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rockman255   Canada. Jul 20 2008 16:32. Posts 4471 | | |
sorry i completely misread the positions and blinds and stuff loco T_T but heres the spoiler for you guys and obv why i posted the hand.. luckily im not that tilted today because even with this major fuckup coupled with losing aavkk for 200bb's, im up a few buyins
and my poker semantics are probably just way off and i dont know the definition of squeeze, i said squeeze cause i felt squeezed cause there was alot of bet-call-rr.. idk
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Loco   Canada. Jul 20 2008 16:51. Posts 21022 | | |
yea i was 99% sure it was either a set or AK but since AK is soooo unlikely given you have AA plus that it's a perfect spot to reraise pf |
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