time for two togh ones i think, 200nl

Submitted by : rossi094

PokerStars Game #18780737286: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/07/13 - 01:18:12 (ET)
Table 'Perrotin' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: Remus3105 ($777.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($210.30 in chips)
Seat 5: halegend1 ($116.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Minto4life ($218.65 in chips)
halegend1: posts small blind $1
Minto4life: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Remus3105: folds
Hero : raises $4 to $6
halegend1: calls $5
Minto4life: folds

Flop (Pot : $14.00)

   
halegend1: checks
Hero : bets $10
halegend1: calls $10

Turn (Pot : $34.00)

   
halegend1: checks
Hero : bets $24
halegend1: raises $24 to $48

PokerStars Game #18780743118: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/07/13 - 01:18:37 (ET)
Table 'Brunk III' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: NNICOLAS ($225.65 in chips)
Seat 2: TomasQ ($270.20 in chips)
Seat 3: MeleaB ($173 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($206 in chips)
Seat 5: EurekaKid ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: Chimmy1023 ($104.95 in chips)
Seat 7: cavalcanti ($94.90 in chips)
Seat 8: jackk frost ($211.20 in chips)
Seat 9: JTil ($180.60 in chips)
jackk frost: posts small blind $1
JTil: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
NNICOLAS: folds
TomasQ: folds
MeleaB has timed out
MeleaB: folds
MeleaB is sitting out
Hero : raises $4 to $6
EurekaKid: calls $6
Chimmy1023: folds
cavalcanti: folds
jackk frost: folds
MeleaB has returned
JTil: folds

Flop (Pot : $15.00)

   
Hero : bets $10
EurekaKid: raises $20 to $30

so im assuming both of them are FR and the first one is just some FR table dying
first hand is a clear fold u dont beat anything just bluffs, because i dont see him c/r turn when flush hits with worse two pairs like 2 5 or 53 and i doubt they call the flop unless hes incredibly retarded


do u have any info on the villian in second hand..?

it would make a decision much easier

On July 12 2008 22:55 Logiabs~ wrote: so im assuming both of them are FR and the first one is just some FR table dying first hand is a clear fold u dont beat anything just bluffs, because i dont see him c/r turn when flush hits with worse two pairs like 2 5 or 53 and i doubt they call the flop unless hes incredibly retarded do u have any info on the villian in second hand..?

first table is 6max i think- i mix tables of 6max and fr, as for info on second villain seemed like a taggish good player.

I'd fold both a turn minraise from a not very good player is always like the nuts (I'm assuming hes not very good since he minraised)

second hand you're oop on a very dry flop this is like a set always and especially since its FR

hand 1: CC flop CR turn line is a extra strong.I think this is a flush the vast majority of the time. I pitch this against unknown with no history

Hand 2: from my 1/2 FR experience EurekaKid is quite nitty.His range for raising on such a dry board is almost exclusively 10-10,4-4,3-3 and the occasionnal big pair with which he decided to trap pre. The probability he is bluff raising here is minute. I personally insta muck vs this player.

fold hand 1 easily

hand 2 is probably a fold as well

these are really basic abc folds in games where people never bluff

On July 13 2008 00:50 [vital]Myth wrote: fold hand 1 easily hand 2 is probably a fold as well these are really basic abc folds in games where people never bluff

i think i agree with you sir

I think check behind is fine for hand 1
I also think 3 betting with 46s pf is a bad idea w/o any sort of history

On July 13 2008 01:41 gawdawaful wrote: I think check behind is fine for hand 1 I also think 3 betting with 46s pf is a bad idea w/o any sort of history

wtf? are we looking at different hands?

anyway, i think fold is good in hand 1 and i like call/re-evaluate in hand 2

I think hand 2 mostly call and reeval turn, only if the guy is a huge nit I fold it.

2. why not call flop? can't it be AT/KT?

On July 13 2008 06:20 MadeInPolanD wrote: 2. why not call flop? can't it be AT/KT?

turn comes a 4. check, he bets 65, ?

The eureka kid is pretty nitty and I don't see anything you're beating herde right now. Pretty simple pitch and move on.

On July 13 2008 04:14 EvilSky wrote: I think hand 2 mostly call and reeval turn, only if the guy is a huge nit I fold it.

Agree, call and reeval is the optimal line against against good players who can bluff raise a certain % of time on dry boards like this,and it would certainly be my default line in 6max. EurekaKid is just not one of those players and this is 1/2 NIT RING on Stars, which is why i'm sure fold is the best move here.

On July 13 2008 10:33 rossi094 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2008 06:20 MadeInPolanD wrote: 2. why not call flop? can't it be AT/KT? turn comes a 4. check, he bets 65, ?

now fold