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Siro Australia. Jul 10 2008 20:23. Posts 1038 | | |
call 3 bet and play poker? |
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royalsu Canada. Jul 10 2008 20:34. Posts 2403 | | |
marshall...why always stick it in preflop? Play some postflop poker geeze!
honestly I flat AK 200bb deep oop. The hand is super easy to play against a tight 11/10 guy...his range is so narrow and we won't get much anyways when he misses. |
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royalsu Canada. Jul 10 2008 20:38. Posts 2403 | | |
4b with a plan plz...it's almost like you're saying to yourself "i have AK the preflop nuts so i 4b...oh shit...he 5b...i guess i don't have the nuts...maybe i'll fold the nuts this time...fuck it...I beat nothing in his range but AK is the nuts and I have balls." |
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SakiSaki  Sweden. Jul 10 2008 20:40. Posts 8014 | | |
You need to know how nits and fish react to agressive/retarded plays. In general I find they dont adjust their preflop ranges to get it in sorta light 200bbs deep, the wait for premiums to play back with and station you with any part of the flop otherwise.
I think calling the 3-bet is way superior to 4-betting yes. |
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MARSHALL28 United States. Jul 10 2008 22:30. Posts 505 | | |
royalsu, yeah youre right, thx for calling me out on that. i didnt make the play cuz i "have balls" ... i really felt like this scenario was very rare and that i should most likely be getting it in because of the dynamic. i did get it in, i suppose i just asked the question wrong, i should have been asking is 4bet/getting it in superior to flatting his 3bet given the dynamic.
saki, yeah i think i agree flatting def is much better, thx. |
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TimDawg United States. Jul 10 2008 23:18. Posts 6048 | | | |
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Baal . Jul 11 2008 09:31. Posts 17768 | | |
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rofl |
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royalsu Canada. Jul 11 2008 09:36. Posts 2403 | | |
btw mathematically you are breaking even if he shoves QQ+ AK. Take out AK and you're fucked. Take out QQ and you dribble a little bit of money. |
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if the 5's vs QJ happened 1 orbit prioir, what hand did button double up with to get to 200bb? did he steamshove some random hand or something or did he cooler someone? i'd scan through the HH and make a descion based on that |
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Fraser Canada. Jul 11 2008 10:29. Posts 3490 | | |
Tom i don't think villain in hand 2 is the same villain from hand 1. |
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in that case - just shove it, f it |
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FrinkX United States. Jul 11 2008 12:02. Posts 5678 | | |
ur freerolling $200 of ur stack so ur only rly shoving 100bb and u'd obviously get that in with AK
so ship it freeroll life |
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MARSHALL28 United States. Jul 11 2008 13:35. Posts 505 | | |
| | On July 11 2008 12:02 FrinkX wrote:
ur freerolling $200 of ur stack so ur only rly shoving 100bb and u'd obviously get that in with AK
so ship it freeroll life |
by this argument, im basically always freerolling and should never consider not shoving. |
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I think that shoving QJ in that spot for 100bb is much worse than shoving AKs here for 200bb |
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TimDawg United States. Jul 11 2008 16:48. Posts 6048 | | |
| | On July 11 2008 16:29 TalentedTom wrote:
I think that shoving QJ in that spot for 100bb is much worse than shoving AKs here for 200bb |
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MARSHALL28 United States. Jul 11 2008 18:30. Posts 505 | | |
| | On July 11 2008 16:29 TalentedTom wrote:
I think that shoving QJ in that spot for 100bb is much worse than shoving AKs here for 200bb |
wow, surprised u think that.... i wish i knew how to do an equity calculation ... pretty sure it has to be +ev w/ dead money vs his range |
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royalsu Canada. Jul 11 2008 21:59. Posts 2403 | | |
i misread the QJ hand the first time around. I thought you reshoved over the preflop raiser. It's actually not that bad now that I think of it. The overcaller has a medium pair most of the time so we're flipping. |
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lebowski Greece. Jul 12 2008 01:28. Posts 2633 | | |
yea the QJ hand doesn't look bad |
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