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TimDawg   United States. Jul 10 2008 14:38. Posts 6057

also i don't think this is a set hardly ever and he could be making a blocking bet with K's, Q's, or J's and not plan on folding to a shove

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 10 2008 15:05. Posts 9770

shove or flat / call a shove or shove if he checks, both are fine this is a 100% no brainer who cares what his stats are TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot for 100bb is the ABSOLUTE nuts

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rogier   Netherlands. Jul 10 2008 15:23. Posts 1172

call and call his allin or shove yourself @ riv


piratematerial   Netherlands. Jul 11 2008 00:46. Posts 405

@Tim how is this a set hardly ever. apart from the fact that they are rare anyway?


Repusz   Hungary. Jul 11 2008 02:16. Posts 445

randomly potting preflop is not good when it results in a pretty bad 3bet size; I would raise it up to like 12 to ensure that no one overcalls with decent set odds - unless of course I expect shortie to overshove and then I attempt to isolate the other caller(s).


chipsOwner   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 02:28. Posts 108

utg donks 2x and you repop button to 12 with ak? thats a pretty bad overraise in my view. i raise this to 7-8 depending on how often i expect V to call the raise. the fact that SB villain overcalled doesnt really give reason to overraise button either


traktor   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 02:34. Posts 185

shove


Repusz   Hungary. Jul 11 2008 03:34. Posts 445


  On July 11 2008 02:28 chipsOwner wrote:
utg donks 2x and you repop button to 12 with ak? thats a pretty bad overraise in my view. i raise this to 7-8 depending on how often i expect V to call the raise. the fact that SB villain overcalled doesnt really give reason to overraise button either




Haven't noticed we have the button sry; I still raise it up a bit more to than 7.5 I think


Edjon   Netherlands. Jul 11 2008 04:22. Posts 905

I think that most players wont play a set like this (although it is a good play against a thinking player).
So I think you are up against a weaker ace or worse. I might prefer to call turn and call/shove river to extract more value.
I agree that your 3 bet size is quite small, I would raise to ~10


piratematerial   Netherlands. Jul 11 2008 05:23. Posts 405

raising to 7 seems perfect imo. 6 would do. we have AK in position. we want action


The72o   Poland. Jul 11 2008 05:41. Posts 4871

but we also want to have HU action and some value out of it
i would go for 8

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Fox   . Jul 11 2008 06:26. Posts 1419

shove people at NL100 do this trying to control the pot =|


SakiSaki    Sweden. Jul 11 2008 07:12. Posts 8029

call and call any river.

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Sheitan   Canada. Jul 11 2008 08:17. Posts 3302


  On July 10 2008 15:05 TalentedTom wrote:
shove or flat / call a shove or shove if he checks, both are fine this is a 100% no brainer who cares what his stats are TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot for 100bb is the ABSOLUTE nuts



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sawseech   Canada. Jul 11 2008 08:28. Posts 1686

call and wall

it needs more pods. 

TimDawg   United States. Jul 11 2008 09:05. Posts 6057


  On July 11 2008 00:46 piratematerial wrote:
@Tim how is this a set hardly ever. apart from the fact that they are rare anyway?

idk, i just never see people play sets like this...evvvvver

i suppose it is possible but i think most of the time he's going to be c/r'ing flop or continueing to trap on the turn

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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 09:08. Posts 2337

Well he could flat a set wanting the ss to overcall and then when he folded he doesnt want a check behind and donks the turn. No reason for raising imo, just call and prolly call a river.


Baal   . Jul 11 2008 09:30. Posts 17812

shove

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 11 2008 11:25. Posts 9770

this isn't even worth discussing, AK in a 3-bet pot on a Axx is the absolute nuts get your house, bike, future babies and shoes in the middle

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Cray0ns   United States. Jul 11 2008 12:00. Posts 503

re: the preflop discussion. If villain is calling the larger 3b oop with worse why not bet as big as possible?


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