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TimDawg   United States. Jul 10 2008 15:38. Posts 10197 | | |
also i don't think this is a set hardly ever and he could be making a blocking bet with K's, Q's, or J's and not plan on folding to a shove |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 10 2008 16:05. Posts 20070 | | |
shove or flat / call a shove or shove if he checks, both are fine this is a 100% no brainer who cares what his stats are TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot for 100bb is the ABSOLUTE nuts |
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rogier   Netherlands. Jul 10 2008 16:23. Posts 1528 | | |
call and call his allin or shove yourself @ riv |
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@Tim how is this a set hardly ever. apart from the fact that they are rare anyway? |
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Repusz   Hungary. Jul 11 2008 03:16. Posts 1033 | | |
randomly potting preflop is not good when it results in a pretty bad 3bet size; I would raise it up to like 12 to ensure that no one overcalls with decent set odds - unless of course I expect shortie to overshove and then I attempt to isolate the other caller(s). |
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chipsOwner   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 03:28. Posts 529 | | |
utg donks 2x and you repop button to 12 with ak? thats a pretty bad overraise in my view. i raise this to 7-8 depending on how often i expect V to call the raise. the fact that SB villain overcalled doesnt really give reason to overraise button either |
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traktor   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 03:34. Posts 372 | | | |
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Repusz   Hungary. Jul 11 2008 04:34. Posts 1033 | | |
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utg donks 2x and you repop button to 12 with ak? thats a pretty bad overraise in my view. i raise this to 7-8 depending on how often i expect V to call the raise. the fact that SB villain overcalled doesnt really give reason to overraise button either |
Haven't noticed we have the button sry; I still raise it up a bit more to than 7.5 I think |
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Edjon   Netherlands. Jul 11 2008 05:22. Posts 1579 | | |
I think that most players wont play a set like this (although it is a good play against a thinking player).
So I think you are up against a weaker ace or worse. I might prefer to call turn and call/shove river to extract more value.
I agree that your 3 bet size is quite small, I would raise to ~10 |
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raising to 7 seems perfect imo. 6 would do. we have AK in position. we want action  |
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The72o   Zimbabwe. Jul 11 2008 06:41. Posts 6112 | | |
but we also want to have HU action and some value out of it
i would go for 8 |
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Fox   . Jul 11 2008 07:26. Posts 3110 | | |
shove people at NL100 do this trying to control the pot =| |
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Sheitan   Canada. Jul 11 2008 09:17. Posts 4217 | | |
| | On July 10 2008 15:05 TalentedTom wrote:
shove or flat / call a shove or shove if he checks, both are fine this is a 100% no brainer who cares what his stats are TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot for 100bb is the ABSOLUTE nuts |
Can i have your babies ? |
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TimDawg   United States. Jul 11 2008 10:05. Posts 10197 | | |
| | On July 11 2008 00:46 piratematerial wrote:
@Tim how is this a set hardly ever. apart from the fact that they are rare anyway? |
idk, i just never see people play sets like this...evvvvver
i suppose it is possible but i think most of the time he's going to be c/r'ing flop or continueing to trap on the turn |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 10:08. Posts 8918 | | |
Well he could flat a set wanting the ss to overcall and then when he folded he doesnt want a check behind and donks the turn. No reason for raising imo, just call and prolly call a river. |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 11 2008 12:25. Posts 20070 | | |
this isn't even worth discussing, AK in a 3-bet pot on a Axx is the absolute nuts get your house, bike, future babies and shoes in the middle |
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Cray0ns   United States. Jul 11 2008 13:00. Posts 993 | | |
re: the preflop discussion. If villain is calling the larger 3b oop with worse why not bet as big as possible? |
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