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MadeInPolanD   Poland. Jul 10 2008 12:43. Posts 425

Submitted by : MadeInPolanD

***** Hand History for Game 1065247844 *****
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, July 10, 04:59:13 ET 2008
Table TURBO Schererville (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $208.05 USD )
Seat 3: NaskoRivera ( $102.05 USD )
Seat 5: dinostar770 ( $66.80 USD )
Seat 6: peder5000 ( $34.02 USD )
Seat 10: ChipsTiger ( $93.65 USD )
NaskoRivera posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
dinostar770 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KcAs
peder5000 raises [$2.00 USD]
ChipsTiger folds
Hero raises [$7.50 USD]
NaskoRivera calls [$7.00 USD]
dinostar770 folds
peder5000 calls [$5.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $23.50)

   2d8sAh
NaskoRivera checks
peder5000 checks
Hero bets [$16.00 USD]
NaskoRivera calls [$16.00 USD]
peder5000 folds

Turn (Pot : $55.50)

   2d8sAhTc
NaskoRivera bets [$27.75 USD]
Hero ?



Villain 22/14/2.4 1.3k hands

notes:
raise/shove KK pf
calls 3bet w/ AK and c/shove ATThh flop
3beted AK -> cbets flop -> shove turn w/ overs

do i call this bet and fold river ( on river: fold to 50$ in 100$ pot )? or fold here cause he should have something that beats me and will always continue on river? or maybe it's a no brainer shove?

 Last edit: 10/07/2008 12:44

piratematerial   Netherlands. Jul 10 2008 12:51. Posts 448

he probably makes calls like this pf with something like 88. maybe 22. but i think he would also be able to do that with AQ/AJ and some bigger pairs like JJ/KK/QQ/AA (but AA and KK are very unlikely) i could understand his flop call/turn lead with most of those holdings. i would def think im usually ahead here. but i'd like a call more because he is never drawing too many outs and you might get more value from the AQ/AJ and some rare Arag suited cards i guess.

on the river i would def bet if checked too and call if bet too.


SpasticInk   Sweden. Jul 10 2008 13:03. Posts 1800

call and see what happens on river


TimDawg   United States. Jul 10 2008 14:36. Posts 6320

just shove

this is AQ/AJ a lot imo

iamalex: lol what if you were cursed by a mummy to never win showdowns. you could only play fold equity. that would suck man 

TimDawg   United States. Jul 10 2008 14:38. Posts 6320

also i don't think this is a set hardly ever and he could be making a blocking bet with K's, Q's, or J's and not plan on folding to a shove

iamalex: lol what if you were cursed by a mummy to never win showdowns. you could only play fold equity. that would suck man 

TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 10 2008 15:05. Posts 9942

shove or flat / call a shove or shove if he checks, both are fine this is a 100% no brainer who cares what his stats are TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot for 100bb is the ABSOLUTE nuts

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rogier   Netherlands. Jul 10 2008 15:23. Posts 1213

call and call his allin or shove yourself @ riv


piratematerial   Netherlands. Jul 11 2008 00:46. Posts 448

@Tim how is this a set hardly ever. apart from the fact that they are rare anyway?


Repusz   Hungary. Jul 11 2008 02:16. Posts 590

randomly potting preflop is not good when it results in a pretty bad 3bet size; I would raise it up to like 12 to ensure that no one overcalls with decent set odds - unless of course I expect shortie to overshove and then I attempt to isolate the other caller(s).


chipsOwner   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 02:28. Posts 109

utg donks 2x and you repop button to 12 with ak? thats a pretty bad overraise in my view. i raise this to 7-8 depending on how often i expect V to call the raise. the fact that SB villain overcalled doesnt really give reason to overraise button either


traktor   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2008 02:34. Posts 202

shove


Repusz   Hungary. Jul 11 2008 03:34. Posts 590


  On July 11 2008 02:28 chipsOwner wrote:
utg donks 2x and you repop button to 12 with ak? thats a pretty bad overraise in my view. i raise this to 7-8 depending on how often i expect V to call the raise. the fact that SB villain overcalled doesnt really give reason to overraise button either




Haven't noticed we have the button sry; I still raise it up a bit more to than 7.5 I think


Edjon   Netherlands. Jul 11 2008 04:22. Posts 960

I think that most players wont play a set like this (although it is a good play against a thinking player).
So I think you are up against a weaker ace or worse. I might prefer to call turn and call/shove river to extract more value.
I agree that your 3 bet size is quite small, I would raise to ~10


piratematerial   Netherlands. Jul 11 2008 05:23. Posts 448

raising to 7 seems perfect imo. 6 would do. we have AK in position. we want action


The72o   Poland. Jul 11 2008 05:41. Posts 4995

but we also want to have HU action and some value out of it
i would go for 8

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Fox   . Jul 11 2008 06:26. Posts 1622

shove people at NL100 do this trying to control the pot =|


SakiSaki    Sweden. Jul 11 2008 07:12. Posts 8195

call and call any river.

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Sheitan   Canada. Jul 11 2008 08:17. Posts 3712


  On July 10 2008 15:05 TalentedTom wrote:
shove or flat / call a shove or shove if he checks, both are fine this is a 100% no brainer who cares what his stats are TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot for 100bb is the ABSOLUTE nuts



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sawseech   Canada. Jul 11 2008 08:28. Posts 1763

call and wall

it needs more pods. 

TimDawg   United States. Jul 11 2008 09:05. Posts 6320


  On July 11 2008 00:46 piratematerial wrote:
@Tim how is this a set hardly ever. apart from the fact that they are rare anyway?

idk, i just never see people play sets like this...evvvvver

i suppose it is possible but i think most of the time he's going to be c/r'ing flop or continueing to trap on the turn

iamalex: lol what if you were cursed by a mummy to never win showdowns. you could only play fold equity. that would suck man 

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